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(I have read this book. I know that Carmilla: The Return is a proper sequel of a re-telling of the original Carmilla.)

- Montréalais 15:54, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)

[edit] The "Vampire Hunter 'D': Bloodlust" section is nonsensical

"The animated film Vampire Hunter 'D': Bloodlust includes a character named Carmilla who is the lingering spirit of a long-dead yet very powerful vampire countess who continues to rule her castle. This is one of a very few movies that portrays a vampire's spirit as having not only the capacity to physically manifest itself, but also the ability to reasonably and dynamically interact with living beings (i.e. one could carry on a normal conversation with her)."

What does this really have to do with the Carmilla story beyond appropriating the name?

Is Carmilla a "lingering spirit" or a vampire?

Does "This is one of a very few movies that portrays a vampire's spirit as having not only the capacity to physically manifest itself, but also the ability to reasonably and dynamically interact with living beings (i.e. one could carry on a normal conversation with her)." have any meaning outside the context of the plot of Vampire Hunter 'D': Bloodlust? At the least the assertion of vampires being unable to carry on conversations displays massive ignorance of almost the totality of vampire-themed literature.

Maybe it is enough to note the referencing of Carmilla in Vampire Hunter... here. Much of this information may belong somewhere else (like the entry for Vampire Hunter).

Having seen Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust a few days ago, I'm quite certain the character of "Carmilla" is just a re-named Elizabeth Báthory. In the movie, this character is refered to as the "Bloody Lady," lives in the Castle Csejthe, and has the legends of Bathory associated with her. I don't think she has much in common with Carmilla, other than they are both female vampires. 69.199.220.88

[edit] Samuel Taylor Coleridge's "Christabel"

Coleridge, in "Christabel" depicted a female vampire with lesbian overtones in 1798, long before Le Fanu. I am sure Le Fanu was aware of the Coleridge poem. Prairie Dog

......................................... A tv version of Carmilla starred Meg Tilly in the late 1980's/early 1990's.

[edit] Vampires Versus Zombies

Seems I have received a POV card for calling the film 'Vampires versus Zombies' 'shoddy'. However I defy anybody who has seen it to describe it as anything else. What is your opinion of this non-masterwork (POV!) of budget cinema? Be honest...Colin4C 18:41, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Some calm critical reflections on the place of this film in cinema history : The critics rage: Vampires versus Zombies Colin4C 21:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

We're well aware that Vampires vs. Zombies sucked mightily. However this is not the IMDb and vandalisation does not make you cool in the eyes of your e-peers. Mr Rubino 22:21, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

Accusing other editors of 'vandalisation' does not make you 'cool', either, in the eyes of your e-peers. Colin4C 09:52, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Editorials are not references. This is a place for fact. Mr Rubino 02:32, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

'Fact' in whose eyes? All 'facts' are interpretations. Read Nietzche...Or the Pre-Socratics: 'man is the measure of all things'. There is no 'view from nowhere', everything is mediated through the human consciousness, physics, chemistry, film interpretation, wikipedia, - the lot.. (read Descartes...). Colin4C 17:50, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

That's a very verbose way of saying nothing relevant or interesting. Your constant pushing of the issue proves nothing other than that this isn't just an opinion, but an agenda. And wikipedia is no place for rabid fanboys or rabid haters to attempt to convince us how many people agree with them and why they should be allowed to be inflammatory trolls. You want philosphy? Here: Just because people agree with you doesn't make it worthy of being in an encyclopedia. 24.228.54.78 11:16, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

What is this? Flame-bait day? I don't see why a referenced critical appreciation of a film, work of art or whatever should be regarded as POV. I'll have a look at the Citizen Kane page to see whether there are any commendatory POVs on that particular film and report back. Colin4C 12:56, 7 October 2006 (UTC)