Talk:Carl "CJ" Johnson

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[edit] CJ'S myspace

Whats wrong with putting CJ'S myspace there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sean mc sean (talk • contribs).

It's not his myspace. It's something that some guy made up. There's no information there that could possibly be relevant to the article. The only reason to link to it is to give whoever made it some publicity or because you find it personally amusing that there's a myspace page purporting to be by Carl Johnson. Croctotheface 18:02, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Also, it even incorrectly details his location: it says "Ganton, CA," instead of "SA" or whatever the official abbreviation would be. ♣ Klptyzm ^{Chat wit me § Contributions} ♣ 03:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

It just says that he lives in the United States. - Sean mc sean

Sean, why are you persisting in reverting to include the link (and reverting my other edits to other parts of the article) when it's clear that you are alone in your opinion? Are you familiar with WP:3RR? You have violated the rule on this article. Also, you should sign your posts with four tildes, like this: ~~~~. Croctotheface 03:28, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

1. I did not know that rule ok? 2. I think it should stay because its just a joke but it does not have to be official to be there, And 3. YOYOYO! 03:31, 29 January 2007 (UTC) THERE! - Sean mc sean

OK, I'm going to assume good faith and assume that you're new here, so I'll explain this in detail. WP:EL, the guideline governing external links on Wikipedia, holds that Myspace pages should generally not be linked to IF THE PAGE IS OFFICIAL, meaning maintained by the person the article is about. In those cases, it's possible that such a page would have relevant information that could not otherwise be found on Wikipedia, and yet the guideline still says that such links should generally be avoided. The page you want to link to has absolutley no relevant information whatsoever. You have not given a single reason to link to it (unless the fact that you believe it should be linked to is a compelling reason, which I do not believe it is), you've just reverted three other editors to put it back, repeatedly, in violation of the 3 revert rule. The page does not belong and it should be removed. Croctotheface 03:36, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

It IS CJ'S myspace!!! Sean mc Sean 03:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

But you previously said that it's a joke. Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 03:56, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Only because CJ is fake. Sean mc Sean 03:57, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Is the myspace endorsed by the creators of the game? Veinor ^{(talk to me)} 03:58, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Even if the page were endorsed by Rockstar, WP:EL still says it should be avoided. This particular page adds NOTHING of value. It has ZERO value as a link. There is no content there whatsoever. There is, therefore, no reason to link to it. Croctotheface 04:01, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

And why would "CJ" forget the state where he lives? It's posted as "Ganton, CA" on his site. ♣ Klptyzm ^{Chat wit me § Contributions} ♣ 04:34, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Also, you can't play that "I didn't know" stuff. You were warned, yet you persisted to do so. ♣ Klptyzm ^{Chat wit me § Contributions} ♣ 04:38, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Evidence that CJ is "co-leader" of the gang?

Lines about "co-leadership" have appeared a lot in articles related to the game, but I don't think there's any evidence it's true. CJ certainly becomes well-respected in the gang as he puts in a lot of work, but he was also away from the gang for five years, after he left San Andreas on awful terms with his brother. I don't know of any mention in the game that CJ is actually calling the shots. He has his brother's ear, obviously, but that is not the same as having a title. Croctotheface 21:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

CJ would probably take over Grove ST. Familys if Sweet died. - Sean mc Sean 02:30, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

That's just your opinion; it doesn't prove anything. Besides, even if it were true, it wouldn't make him co-leader, just next in line. Croctotheface 04:18, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Recent edits that I reverted

I reverted Sean mc sean's recent edits because they described events in the game using the past tense, which is contrary to the Manual of Style, particularly WP:WAF. I would encourage Sean or someone else to readd some of the expanded information that his edit introduced in such a way that complies with Wikipedia's guidelines. Croctotheface 01:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC) Upon closer inspection, these edits were a blanket revert, spanning 37 edits, back to the first time Sean tried to introduce the Myspace page. (Diff) I find this rather disturbing. Croctotheface 11:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)