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[edit] Political NPOV

Surprisingly, the image has used "Communist East Asia" to identify a group of countries. Wondering if this can be the terminology used by the US Government, I have verified the original data source. I found that the original term should be "Centrally Planned Asia", as used by the Carbon Dioxide Information Analysis Center, an associate with Energy Department, USA. "Centrally Planned Asia" is of course a more suitable term, because it denotes an implicit relationship between cardon dioxide emission and economic structure. On the contrary, I wonder, is there any relationship between Communism and carbon dioxide emission?

Such a departure from original data, I think, contains an implicit political stance, even though such is not the intention of the image provider. If the Wikipedians share my view, perhaps it is good to change the image, if not delete it?

--61.10.7.131 00:25, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

Even when I see your point, I think "communist east Asia" is way easier to spot than "centrally planned Asia" (although I admit both sound rather obfuscating to me - which countries are these anyway - China, Vietnam, and DPRK? That's it? Pretty much sounds like China standing all by itself since industrial production at the other two are almost nothing when compared to China) By this I mean that when I heard the expression "communist east Asia" it's slightly easier to visualize a country map of corresponding countries than for the term "centrally planned Asia" --Yonghokim 08:56, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

also, "Centrally Planned Asia" is more than communist states. I don't know enough regional political economy, but South Korea during the Park/Chun regime was centrally planned albeit not communistic. So careful attention should be paid to whether these two categories actually overlap for the time period in which the institution produced the graph --Yonghokim 08:57, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Time span

Also, the graph is a little misleading by ending in 2000. Further explanation in the Centrally Planned Asia notes that China's CO2 output during 1996-2001 fell due to more efficient methods for consuming coal, making it look like China perhaps was reducing its emissions even without being part of Kyoto. The detail text notes that after 2001, coal use again outpaced efficiency improvemements, and "2002 emission levels represent all-time highs". It would be good to get an updated version of this graph to reflect China's recent upsurge in emissions. --Interiot 13:46, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree with Interoit above, this graph is nearly 7 years out of date and can be misleading. The emissions from China and other Asian countries has risen dramatically since 2000 and a new graph would show a more balanced and current view. Lucid-dream 21:17, 31 December 2006 (UTC)