User talk:Cap'n Refsmmat

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[edit] Welcome to the Wikipedia

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Sam [Spade] 17:43, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

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Comment @ Sam [Spade] 18:01, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Electronic counter-measures and Electronic countermeasures

I've put a merger template on these two pages and listed them at Wikipedia:Duplicate articles. Lacrimosus 22:44, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Thank you. Cap'n Refsmmat 00:59, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] ComputerGeek links

Please don't link to the same site from so many articles. It looks like spamming. The site you've added appears to be a general programmers' forum; it doesn't seem sufficiently relevant to any of the articles on specific programming languages and environments.-gadfium 21:26, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

How's that? I was thinking that the forum was supposed to be for programming, and that's what the articles are about... in any case, which articles should it be linked from? It's got to fit in at least one, I suppose. I mean, I could narrow each link down to the specific part of the forum for that as well, which would mean they'd see only the C++ section (as an example). What do you think? Cap'n Refsmmat 21:42, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

Specifying the section dealing with the specific programming language or environment would certainly be an improvement. In my opinion, you should probably link to the most well-populated / authoritative forum for each language, not to the one you may have an interest in. In many cases, that might be the usenet forum. For example, link to Usenet C++ discussion -gadfium 22:09, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Could I link to both? Cap'n Refsmmat 22:19, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

I can't give you an authoritative answer on that. I'm just an ordinary user here, same as you are. I'd say that if you link to both, and the ComputerGeek link has an active and relevant discussion, and if the links are after other links (should they exist), that's probably fine, but there's a chance other Wikipedians might have other attitudes. Perhaps the best policy is to add both links to one of the articles, such as the C++ one, and wait 24 hours to get a reaction. In your comment when adding the link, or on the article's talk page, ask people to join this discussion. You could also post something on the Village pump (policy) page.

The best link I can give you for policy is External links and the temp page within that, but they don't really address the issue of forum sites.-gadfium 22:53, 24 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I'll try the village pump... see what others think, rather than have them get mad at me for it.


PS: Did you like my forums? Cap'n Refsmmat 23:28, Nov 24, 2004 (UTC)

I looked at the C and Java forums. The forums seem nice enough, but the traffic is low. Compare with the Usenet forum linked to above for what I consider substantial traffic: several dozen messages a day, plus more on the moderated forum, plus more on compiler-specific topics such as Visual C++. I don't frequent these groups any more; about ten years ago they were about ten times bigger, and keeping up with them was a lot of effort. There may well be bigger, html-based programming forums which I don't know about. There is a danger that someone posting a question on a large forum such as these will be overlooked. On a smaller forum such as yours I'm sure every effort will be made to help, but you don't appear to have the pool of expertise that the usenet groups attract.
My advice would be to focus on a small area where you have significant expertise, which might be the TI calculator programming, for example, and to try contributing to the larger forums in those areas as well to increase the breadth of your knowledge. I don't know anything about TI calculators, and there don't seem to be high-traffic usenet forums for them, but you probably know about other forums in this area.-gadfium 22:26, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)

It looks like the discussion at the Village Pump has come to an end, and at least we have the linking to forum policy clarified. I'd just like to comment that I think you have acted honourably throughout the discussion, and any suggestion made that you were spamming is incorrect. My own comment at the top of this section that your initial behaviour "looked like spamming" may have been correct, but your subsequent willingness to discuss the issues and accept an outcome that doesn't benefit you proves otherwise. I hope you will continue to contribute to Wikipedia.-gadfium 22:22, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Thank you very much. TroelsArvin seems to have taken things rather harshly. Perhaps he's seen too many spammers. :-p Cap'n Refsmmat 00:15, Dec 1, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Visual Basic Clasic Wikibook

I see you have contributed to the Visual Basic article on Wikipedia. Any chance you would like to join in editing the wikibook: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Programming:Visual_Basic_Classic? --Kjwhitefoot 08:16, 30 September 2005 (UTC)

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