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[edit] Your attempt to send Serenity (manga) to AfD

I removed the AfD tag from Serenity (manga) because no AfD was listed for over 8 hours after the tag was added. You can re-add the tag, but you have to finish the AfD listing process for the AfD to become valid. You can find instructions on how to properly nominate an article for deletion here. --Coredesat 09:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

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[edit] Welcome, Candy-Panda!

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[edit] i love your username

Are these your relations? — coelacan talk — 02:53, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Yarr, no problem. I noticed you grabbed the top of it from my tables, and I still sort of remembered how to fix them. btw we also have tanuki-standcat userbox: {{User:Coelacan/Userboxes/cat lover}} although you can't see his face very well. I can make userboxes with any pictures, text, and colors, so let me know if you need anything. — coelacan talk — 07:15, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Hi!

Thanks for pointing out the spoiler in Ichigo's article (don't know how we managed not to notice it). If you like Tokyo Mew Mew, I have some Tokyo Mew Mew Userboxes that you can place on your user page. ~_^ Yume no Kishi

[edit] reply to berry shirayuki's article

"She also took a school entrance exam just because of their school uniforms, which could mean she completely blew off their academic specifications, which led her still be labeled as a complete idiot,"

Well, this part, I went to some forums relating to Tokyo Mew Mew, and fans a problem with this. I also went to anime news network, and they didn't positivly comment on this.

"as it is very strange to go to a school simply for the uniforms, let alone some pre-teens, teens and sometimes parents don't positively comment on school uniforms."

I also went to some opinion sites about school uniforms, and some parents, and teens had a problem with uniforms, therefore I added it. I was talking about non-Japanese fans, as I don't the Japanese's piont of veiw.

Do you have a site where you found out that in Japan it is common to go to a school for the uniforms.

Would this be the reason you put that banner?

"THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 05:36, 28 January 2007 (UTC)


in page 2 of the manga, berry says she take a school enterence exam for the uniforms. She doesn't say anything about the acidemic spefications. She even says "I didn't check up on anything about this school except the uniform..." Plus, the school kids are rather rich, and I she didn't realize that when she decided to take the exam. There is no mention what her dad say. Plus, seeing how I've already seen many fans opinion of her reason to go to her school, so I really can't change it.

"THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 06:18, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

"Well when you're forced to go to a school with an ugly uniform for 13 years, you don't feel unsympathetic towards a character who chooses to go to a school with a pretty one"

..Where did this come from? How does this relate to a manga originally intended for kids?....

"Fanforums are biased, Wikipedia is supposed to be 100% neutral and what some fans say about some characters are irrelevant to an encyclopedia article."

Yes they are, but I dont see you commenting on the rest of her "criticism" section. Whenever there is ovbious criticsm/reception on an article, a fans reception comes into play. It is rather hard to be neutral on fan's opinion. Plus, anime news network is a reliable source, so once again, I can't change that reaction to her choosing a school just because of the uniforms.

"THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 06:41, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

" It was probably the author's intention to make Berry a ditzy character, many magical girl heroines are."

And the reaction of some fans, is that they did not like this, and other factors that I've alreasy written on the criticism section.

"Berry is only 12 after all, it is fitting with the age of her character that she might be tempted by a pretty uniform, and forget about academic expectations"

What would her dad think? There is no mention of what her dad thought.

I believe your going too much into this....The whole thing is only on like 3 pages and not even fully explained so I believe you assuming many things..

"THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 07:09, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

"I believe you're the one going too much into this and assuming many things."

^^ quote: "I envy the purple school uniforms of Wesley College, Melbourne..." Your relating this too much of your personal experience about school uniforms.

"You're mentioning the dad, who cares what the dad thought?"

Well, gee, um oh I dont know, maybe because when ever a kid is considering transferring to a school, a parent will almost always voice an opinion...

"He wasn't mentioned in the first 3 pages"

..which goes back to is not even fully explained...

Apparently I need to explain to you why I wrote that section....I'm removing that banner you put because this discussion is rather flawed, so anything discussed here is not NPOV.

"THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!"

"I know exactly why you wrote that section, you're using "the fans" opinions to disguise your own, which is why that section is so heavily biased."

I would have to say this is a rather dumb assummption. Go see forums about berry, and school uniforms. You reason for that section being biased is also rather badly thought out. I actually went to sites to see if should add something to it, and you are relating yourself to a 3 page "explaination" about it. Now, do you even have the mangas? You replies are implying you don't. If you havent seen anything sites about it, I suggest you dont assume that it is all biased.

"THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 07:50, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

"Now, do you even have the mangas? You replies are implying you don't."

And yet you have not answered my question.

I am certain you didnt do this. Go look at the history of that section. You will see that other people have said stuff like "there are more beery-haters then lovers" etc. You will see that it is much more biased than the current version Because of this, I believe no admin or whatever could go object it cause it pretty ovbious there is a reaction to berry. Dont go assuming at I only wrote it.

"THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 18:27, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] AfD Nomination: Garry Schultz

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[edit] Deletion nominations

That's proably enough christian rock nominations in one go... Doing "bulk" nominations often has the opposite to the intended effect. - brenneman 06:31, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

To expand on the above comment, Candy-Panda, thanks for looking out for Wikipedia. But please take into consideration WP:N and WP:BAND in particular before nominating bands for deletion. A discography is a claim of notability, and depending on the label, it proves the claim. If you are doubtful, feel free to link to the label's website as a source. Sure, we need to cite secondary sources, but primary sources are helpful as well. —siroχo 09:59, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

G'day shella of the west island, was about to say something similar to what those two above said. What I'll add is that I suggest doing a small amount of [google|basic research] first before listing something on AfD in future. While some of the ones you listed looked like me too that perhaps they should be deleted, because I took a quick sniff round I found most of them actually seemed ok. I always (and strongly believe everybody else should do the same too) put more work into listing an AfD than voting on it (though most of my votes I typically check out very carefully too). Mathmo Talk 11:43, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Please please please do this, candy-panda. I've had to follow your contributions for the last few days to catch each article you nominate. Please do not rely on your knowledge and the text of the article, rather, check the text of the article against WP:N and WP:MUSIC (for bands, etc), perform some research on Google or wherever else appropriate, and then consider nominating it. Realize that every time you don't do this research, multiple other editors will, and therefore you are increasing the amount of work it takes to achieve essentially the same result (anywhere from double to ten-fold depending on the number of people who respond to the AFD). If you don't have time to do the research, don't nominate it! Also, please realize that unsourced claims within an article are not a reason for deleting that article, you can simple be bold and remove those claims yourself! Please, Candy-panda, do not continue to nominate articles in the method you have been. —siroχo 15:53, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
Heh, sorry about this but I'm going have to agree with siroχo again. Certainly for some of the borderline cases I had to put in quite a lot of work (silly wikipedia addiction...) to make sure they would be kept. You are rather young and kinda new to wikipedia as well? Perhaps it would be a good idea to get another more experienced editor to check over your next few AfD's before you submit them yourself? For instance I'm sure both myself and siroχo would be glad to help out if you get in touch with us through our talk pages. Mathmo Talk 10:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
I'm a fast replier. Sometimes... ;) Mathmo Talk 11:56, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

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I think it's great that you asked why, since all I've really told you is "because Wikipedia says so!" We are lucky here at the English Wikipedia, since many other Wikipedias have banned the use of copyrighted material altogether. The argument goes that since an image is copyrighted, we shouldn't be allowed to use it at all. But on the other hand, the use of copyrighted material is justifiable for criticism and commentary. According to this, the only acceptable use of these images is in articles where they are discussed.
It seems stupid that, although the image has already been uploaded and is being used legitimately in an actual article, it can't be used on a user page! I would agree. Personally, I am not a strong believer in copyrights. But in the end, that is how Wikipedia works, and Wikipedia owns the servers on which these images are stored. − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 09:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] how to be more ruthless and still have time for a bamboo break

Hi Candy-Panda. =) Considering the time you spend in AFD, I think you'd benefit from the advice at Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions. It's important to remember that AFD is not a vote, and if you use the arguments in that list, your input is not likely to be counted for much by the closing admin. So hopefully that page will help you use your time wisely. Drop by my talk page if you've got questions! Peace, — coelacan talk — 10:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Odd eyed cats

Those sources look pretty legit to me. Written by doctors, it wouldn't seem the people at Purina would have any reason to make that up. I might have gone overboard on the citation tags (sometimes I get citation happy, but better too many than too little). Well cited, quirky facts like this almost always make it to the front page. Keep your eyes peeled, sometimes they are only up for eight or ten hours, but then they are always archived.A mcmurray 08:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

Well I hope it gets up there. Good luck and the help was no problem, I have been patrolling peer review lately, I figure why not help out.A mcmurray 09:28, 7 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Odd-eyed cat, was selected for DYK!

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Yes, congrats on the DYK and thanks for taking the initiative by creating a new and useful cat article. Love the close-up photo!Lisapollison 01:43, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Odd-Eyed Cat

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[edit] Odd Eyed Awesome

Front page and that nifty barnstar! Sweet. A mcmurray 03:48, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the WikiCookie! I am chomping it now. The help was no problem.A mcmurray 12:42, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Too much Ribbon/Reborn

You're not the first person to say it...

We'd be glad if one or two sentences about the attacks was enough, and we originally did not intend this section to be so large. I think it'll be shortened once we add a proper citation: we have a source now. However, back when we just inserted this stuff into the articles, it was constantly getting deleted by those who don't believe. Pictures are for those who don't have the original manga, or just need to see the difference between the katakana with their own eyes. The reason why we keep it in all Mews' articles is because we got tired of fixing this "ribbon" thing, as some people don't even bother to look into other articles. And if you read the stupidity on Ichigo's article talk page (and my opinion on it on Angelofdeath275's talk page), you'll see that just stating it was a mistake isn't enough. I say again - we'd be glad not to insert so much info about this, but some wikiusers are apparently not mature enough to just agree it's a mistake. We simply wanted to point out that Tokyopop made a mistake (and it seems to be a common thing for them... just remember "Sailor Moon"...), and then random people started to call us stupid here on Wikipedia talk pages (for the articles not even related to TMM) and in their LiveJournals. It's just sad.

However, I was thinking of moving this stuff from the main article to the "International adaptations of Tokyo Mew Mew" article, as I believe it is a more appropriate place for this. Then the notes in other articles can be replaced with links to this one explanation. Once we found a source, we don't need to keep this stuff from being deleted: if we add a citation or a link to a review about this, the section will no longer be marked OR. Unfortunately, Angelofdeath275 has computer problems now, so I'll wait and see if I can convince her to do this (since she was the one who made this section, I won't move it myself). I do agree that it's too much, as I myself want to shorten this section, but I explained above why there is so much stuff...

  • That's okay, I understand how immature some TMM fans can be. ;) I've recently been battling with trying to remove some biased ranting that a certain user keeps putting on the Tokyo Mew Mew a la Mode and Berry Shirayuki pages. It's gone for now, but I'm sure it will soon be back up again. ^^; --Candy-Panda 06:41, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Very late comment

late comment, computer issues.

My issue with you referring Berry and A la mode's article is that you indirectly stated you have not read the manga. So, you would have a hard time seeing what is a lie, half truths, fabrications, etc.

My other issue with you is that you couldnt even comment on my talk page about it and went on the anime manga project page, without even telling me (you got make a discussion then tell the other person to restate their side of the arguement). That annoyed me. What is so hard to comment to the person you have an issue with? I dont see what it is hard.

You first sounded like a ranting fan about the school uniforms, then went suddenly referred to the entire section. At that point I thinking "Ok, this must be another of those people from Red Data Forums. I'm not gonna listen to this person.", and blew off whatever you said.

Then when I told you that I did not only wrtie up that section on Berry's article, you constantly said I did. That pissed me off so at that point I'm like " If this person won't listen to me, why should I listen to this person?"

I don't like it whenever someone removes an enitre section, ever since the "reborn" section was removed many times. I see the person whoever deleted it, what ever the reason as someone I know I will not like, and basically as vandals.

Bottom line, if you have an issue with me, I'd perfer it if you said it to me (commenting on my talk page) then indirectly saying your issue (article talk pages, don't really pay attention to them). I have an issue with people not directly stating their issue with me.

"THROUGH FIRE, JUSTICE IS SERVED!" 07:57, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Japanese eye charts

Hi Candy-Panda,

The eye chart somebody posted in reply to your question wasn't real. Take another look and you'll see additional information.

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[edit] Wikikids

Hi Candy, I saw that you were interested in the Wikikids proposal on Meta ([1]). We did it in french and in Dutch, (I am from the french one). Have a look here : Vikidia:About. You can tell what you think about it, and feel free to correct the english ! Astirmays 23:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I love you userpage!!

the title says it all really... But yeh, its really cool looking and colourful and all. a great work of art for future generations to admire and revere. It is such a momentus achievement that no doubt it will be reguarded with awe coupled with profound honor, as with all the greatest works of art and literature. Livestock kills 10:02, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Public secondary schools in Geelong

I've added two more (from memory). There's possibly a few more missing in the outer areas. I'm an old-Geelong lad btw. -- Longhair\talk 08:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

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