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Contents 1 Animal Torture 2 Bigger than E.T.? (In Japan, at least.) 3 Red links / Tribes 4 Interpretation section 5 Controversy 6 To 68.55.35.214

[edit] Animal Torture

Has it been officially confirmed that the animal torture in the film is, in fact genuine? I'm not talking about a conviction, but more of a confirmation by the creators. - 202.138.30.92 20:09, 22 November 2005(UTC)

Animal Torture is a funny word, because it implies that they torture animals for no reason. the treatment of animals in this movie is no worse then the treatment of animals in real life, in just about every country on earth. - 202.63.42.174 07:11, 24 November 2005(UTC)

It very much has been confirmed, both by actors, crew, director, pretty much everyone involved. Helltopay27 17:06, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Everyone involved in this film should die as horribly as those animals did and I truly hope and pray that they do. Yes, it is true that in real animals are treated badly, perhaps as badly, but it was not the point of this movie to show us how bad they are treated in real life but rather to torture them for entertainment, and I am sure many people enjoy this. Such people should simply take whatever weapons, guns, knives, etc, and torture themselves to death in front of a mirror. 64.180.14.34 07:34, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Do you know how warped in the head you are?! You must be a PETA member. Helltopay27 17:05, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

Agree, the animals were slaughtered, not tortured. The pig was shot in the head for crying out loud - wow that's torture? Cannibal Feorx did much worse by cutting the limbs off a tortoise before killing it, and trying to make a python strangle their muskrat (the python wasn't hungry though so it didn't kill it). Incidentally, if you think that's torture then someone has to go and shoot all the predators of the wild like lions and tigers and bears, oh my! Because they'll all play with their prey before killing it - not to mention some animals will start to eat their prey before their prey is dead. In some cases it can take more than hour for predators to kill their prey. And what about crabs? have you ever enjoyed crab-meat? Do you realize the most humane way to kill a crab is to freeze it to death? 61.69.0.246 08:16, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bigger than E.T.? (In Japan, at least.)

On the back of a Cannibal Holocaust videocassette box it says that the movie was wildly popular in Japan, grossing as much (if not more) than E.T. Does anyone know if this is true? - 71.112.179.201 03:57, 14 July 2005 (UTC)

Yes That Is True. Cannibal Holocaust Is One Of The Top 10 Grossing Films EVER In Japan. - 202.138.30.92 15:11, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

You are talking out of a part of your body usually reserved for depositing bodily waste. OF COURSE they will say this on the back of the VHS - it is a way to sell the movie. Can you PLEASE confirm two things:

1) Have you been to Japan? If so, then you would know that no one has heard of this movie and that it is not out there on DVD or VHS. A bit strange for one of the "top 10 grossing films" in the country's history, no?

2) Can you PLEASE provide some hard box office facts to back this ridiculous urban legend up? It is also a racist urban legend - indicating that some "other" (the Japanese) would like to watch animal cruelty and brutal rape scenes over "ET" and most other movies. It is an urban legend as racist as the actual film's contents.

Get a grip. 172.143.24.29 18:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

List of top ten grossing films in Japan is here: http://www.tqnyc.org/NYC040592/statistics/topteninjapan.html Can we please now remove this stupid "fact"? 172.143.116.85 23:23, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

The movies on that list is quite new, with the oldest being from 1996. Maybe in the 1980s Cannibal Holocaust was in the top 10. /Jiiimbooh 18:46, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Unlikely, films in the 80s that broke the box office in Asia (including Japan) included Back to the Future, the Star Wars sequels, Who Framed Roger Rabbit and so on and so forth. Cannibal Holocaust was never a top grossing film in Japan - it's just an "urban legend" which no one has any evidence to back up (because it's false). 84.71.56.78 20:40, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's false, despite people who were in Japan saying so, plus this is coming from someone who hates this movie. Last I checked, Cannibal Holocaust made anywhere from $25-30 million in its release year in Japan. That's not too far off of that list, especially with most of those movies being newer films. Besides, who says that's a reliable source? Helltopay27 16:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Red links / Tribes

What's up with the links to the names of the three "tribes"? Is someone expecting articles to be written on fiction groups in some 25 year old pseudo-film?
Also, could you people please sign your comments? Even if you don't have an account, it makes everyone's lives so much easier. Thank you. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 13:21, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I've signed and timestamped all the stray comments I found here. Hooray! Somebody really needs to get off of their buttocks(often called butt, buns, bum, ass or arse), and cook up some sort of bot to do this. - The Unsinkable Brother Dave Thompson 3:57, 23 April 2006 (PST)

The names of the tribes in the movie were named after real indigenous groups in South America, but I believe that none of them are actually cannibalistic (this is only what I've heard, so if you find counter evidence, enlighten me. I do know for a fact that there is an indigenous group called the Yanomami). Helltopay27 17:07, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Helltopay27. there is in fact a group called the Yanomami, wich was probably the inspiration for the name Yanomamo. But it is not the same, and the Yanomami do not look like that at all (different body painting, hairstyles, etc). BTW, cannibalism is extremely rare among the brazilian indians nowadays, perhaps fully disappeared. I am not sure whose name could be source of inspiration for the Shamitari and Yacumo. If anyone has any idea, they could tell me. Also, i'd like to know if the actors that performed the indians in the movie were actual amazonian natives. Anyone has any idea?--Rogeriobwp 16:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm not sure about the Yacumo, but the Shamatari are another indigenous group who live in the same area as the Yanomamö (yes, they are indeed called the Yanomamö. Their language is Yanomami. The name was just "borrowed," I guess, for the movie. I cite the research book Yanomamö for all of this). Helltopay27 16:47, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

There is this musical production called Yanomamo floating around church basements and schools and so on giving a delightful depiction of the wonderful life of these lovely tree people among the animals which live in the rainforest. On the other hand, something I read the other month in a National Geographic or some such of equal reliability described them as among the most warlike people on Earth. I guess ya pays yer money and ya takes yer choice. Gzuckier 17:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

The film was staged in a rural area of Columbia. The spot was a bit troubled with drugs, people making money with drugs and the usual problems in such economically underdeveloped areas. The nice ladies in the bathing scene came right out of the local brothel, etc. So far I read about the film somewhere. Perhaps delink the tribes as long as someone isn't willing to provide more articles on the film. Wandalstouring 01:30, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Interpretation section

The "interpretation" section looks to me a lot like original research, and I'd be inclined to remove all the nonfactual and/or unsourced info there (ie, most of it). If it was of the form "critic David Blah has said that...", it would be a lot better. Right now, I just get the impression this is a WP editor's interpretation, which seems kind of dubious. Agree? Disagree? --Mr Wind-Up Bird ✈ 17:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

All of it now has citations and names the reviewers who made the statements. Helltopay27 16:48, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Controversy

I think it must confirm in some way or clear it because, when cheking the main page of the CH movie (not Wikipedia) its seems the page has the material and quotes arranged to induct the people to think its was a real expedition, and the 3 groups of natives exists and do the canibalism acts. At the bottom of certain stuff (photos and videos) appear a legeng saying this is material from the Police local. So this is for real or its part of the publicity for these movie?

Thanks in advance Isamu at vf_v_oberon@yahoo.com 201.127.66.59 21:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Trust me, it's publicity. The guys at Grindhouse Releasing (who run the site) are very much aware that it's fictional. They constantly hold conventions, interviews with actors/crew, etc., so it would be hard to miss. It's common knowledge that this film isn't real nowadays, isn't it? Helltopay27 17:07, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

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Please stop reverting these edits, as the information that you persistently keep adding is irrelevant and not a trivia fact. --Crackerjackal 20:34, 2 July 2006 (UTC)