Talk:Canadian Auto Workers

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[edit] CAW suport for the Bloc

Anon: Do you have any evidence that the CAW backs the Bloc? - SimonP 07:15, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)

Yes ther was a rally with Buzz Hargrove, Jack Layton and Gills Duceppe on supporting anti-scap labor and Buzz Hargrove will back the Bloc in Quebec because the bloc is more populer then the NDP and ther both Social Democratic Partys that will support union rights and did you know that Gills Duceppe was a Union organiser.

That is theory, do you have any actual evidence that the super-nationalistic CAW backs the separatist Bloc. - SimonP 08:22, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)

Buzz Hargrove will not support separation but he will back the bloc in Quebec because of stronger support in Quebec then the NDP

Do you have some evidence for this? - SimonP 08:33, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)

It came out of Buzz Hargoves Mouth

In the 2004 election, just a few months ago, the CAW backed the NDP across the country. Since then Hargrove has stated that the NDP and Bloc should work together in parliament, but to my knowledge the CAW has never aided the Bloc in an election or given the party its endorsement. - SimonP 08:41, Dec 2, 2004 (UTC)

Ok type this on the search engien (Buzz Hargrove Bloc Quebecois) and you will see that Buzz Hargrove will support the Bloc Quebecois.

The most I get from that search is that Hargrove stated that the NDP "should consider working with the popular Bloc in a left-wing alliance in the Commons" [1]. - SimonP 02:07, Dec 3, 2004 (UTC)

Here is some evidence that thay also support the Bloc. [2]

[edit] Lists

Just added the "Major Employers" bit. There are a lot of red links I know, but I'll see if I can knock a few of them down. I'm putting in a related link to a complete list (uhg another list) of union Locals as well. They're ALL red to start, so feel free to pitch in. :) --Bookandcoffee 05:03, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

Good work adding the companies, the red links show some of the gaps that need to be filled. I do question whether each local need its own article. Maybe it would be better to have a Canadian Auto Workers locals article, or series of articles, that give a paragraph or two to each local, rather than an entire article for each one. - SimonP 13:45, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Hmm. I don't know about the list thing either, except each local does have its own history and regional politics... These are fairly large organizations, ranging from 20,000 members down to several hundred, with separate histories from the 30's. I'd be tempted to keep the list and use it as a timeline history of the growth of the CAW, but still leave each Local on their own. Give me a few days to wack together a start on my local and see what you think... --Bookandcoffee 15:57, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] History rewrite

I replaced the following section of history.

The union began as the Canadian division of the United Auto Workers, founded in the 1930s. In the 1980s, Canadian labour began to become far more militant than their American counterparts. The focus of union activity had also changed. High wages and good benefits from the auto-companies had been achieved and the union saw the greater threat as coming from the federal government. This made large national unions that covered many industries more useful than international unions limited to only one industry. In 1984, the Canadian section of the UAW, under the leadership of Bob White and his assistants Buzz Hargrove and Bob Nickerson, broke from the UAW because the American union was seen as giving away too much in the way of concessions during collective bargaining. Also the UAW had been lobbying the U.S. Congress to force the transfer of auto production from Canada to the U.S. and another major issue to the Canadians was the lack of a representative voice during the UAW's conventions. In 1985 the split from the American union was complete and Bob White was acclaimed as the first President of the CAW. He went on to serve 3 terms as president.

I think the main changes of this edit are:

  • more emphasis on the differences in job related issues, and less on the political agenda of Canadian Labour.
    • no mention of "greater threat as coming from the federal government"
  • reduced role of militancy in Canada

I am unsure of the correct balance these forces played, (having an interest in the CAW as a member, not a historian), and would be glad of additional editing and balancing by others.--Bookandcoffee(Leave msg.) 23:57, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

The CAW also supports the Liberal Party of Canada [3]

Please do some reasearch. Buzz Hargrove is not the totality of the CAW, at that same meeting today the 900 CAW representatives voted to officially to endorse the NDP. The CAW has officially endorsed the New Democrats. - SimonP 04:32, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Infobox

I added an infobox to this page. It is currently being proposed as a template within a new project at WikiProject Organized Labour. Your comments would be greatly appreciated.--Bookandcoffee 06:35, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

The Infobox has been updated with the actual template from {{Infobox Union}}.--Bookandcoffee 06:51, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Liberal Support Fallout

In convention held today in Vancouver, the CAW officially severed ties with the NDP. This is in direct response to the suspension of Buzz Hargrove from the NDP by Ontario Provincial Council in 2006. They also reaffirmed their support of stratigic voting next federal election. Such changes should be reflected within the article, but I do not know how to put them into the article without changing the format. [4] --Canwaf 20:27, 16 August 2006 (UTC)