Talk:Canada/USA Mathcamp
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- Mathcamp is pretty notable. Math teachers across the United States encourage their best math students to apply for the camp. Though maybe not as notable as the AMC or Mathcounts, it's still up there. — flamingspinach | (talk) 06:55, 2005 Apr 25 (UTC)
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64.105.35.205 is me. PlatypeanArchcow 16:53, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Sources for Mathcamp culture
Hey, this is Rob.
The new section for "Mathcamp culture" is cool, but I doubt it will be able to stick on Wikipedia, because there aren't any sources for it. It's all hearsay. Hearsay that over a hundred people will generally agree on, many of whom are on Wikipedia, but that doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
There are probably some well-referenced things that can be said about Mathcamp culture - in particular, anything that can be extracted from this article about Mathcamp in the Globe and Mail. Of course, that was Mathcamp 2003, so we'll have to find aspects of culture that are fairly invariant across the years.
I may give this a try soon, because Mathcamp really should have a good Wikipedia article.
rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 05:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Mathcamp culture section 2006-biased?
It seems to me that the "Mathcamp culture" is a bit biased towards more recent developments, particularly those from 2006. I mean, seriously, is Mood Loquacious more deserving of mention than, say, sarongs, or any of the dozen other older traditions that aren't mentioned?
Civman2000 02:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC) (Eric W, 05-06)
- I haven't taken on the project of tracking down sourced facts about Mathcamp culture yet, but basically -- unless a new published source has shown up that I don't know about -- a properly sourced article will have to be 2003-and-before-biased. I believe Food Tongue is unverifiable, for example (and Moody Loquacious is extremely unverifiable). Sarongs should be easy to verify, though. I bet that Mathcamp even has officially published materials with people in sarongs. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 23:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
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- I assume the yearbook isn't a valid source? If it is, a lot of this stuff can be sourced to that. There is a section on sarongs in the '06 yearbook (or the supplement?) and some section intros were in food tongue and moody loquacious. On the other hand, sarongs doesn't need it (assuming the official MC site is a valid source) --- see Megan and (less clearly) staff in tree. Ealex292 08:55, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
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- The yearbook isn't a reliable source -- a random Wikipedian wouldn't be able to obtain one, and even if they could, they wouldn't be able to understand it, or tell the parts that actually happened from the parts that are just amusing. There is, however, a new article about 2004 in Imagine magazine. (It doesn't mention Food Tongue.) rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 09:14, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
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Food Tongue has now been referenced in a printed newspaper! It's a personality profile of Scott Garrabrant, mentioning that Food Tongue is spoken by Scott and his "friends from math camp". It doesn't merit more than a passing mention, as it is just "something made up at Mathcamp one day", but it can be used as an example of the quirkiness of Mathcamp culture.
We have sufficient sources to write a legitimate Mathcamp culture section. I'm going to remove the current one to give the process a push. I'm not trying to reduce Wikipedia's coverage of Mathcamp -- I feel that removing the current Mathcamp culture section will improve the article by making it more encyclopedic, and then people who want to describe Mathcamp culture can work on a new section with real sources. The current section gives Mathcampers who may want to edit the article the mistaken impression that they should add random anecdotes to it and that's enough. rspeer / ɹəədsɹ 22:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
