Talk:Camping

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Some previous history of this article from before the move is at camping (recreation). I moved this article since virtually all links (30 to 1) are to camping as recreation not camping as video game cheating. Rmhermen 18:05, Jan 8, 2004 (UTC)

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Hmm. This is a case where it would possibly be better to have the camping (recreation) article here, and include a note about the other meaning of camping, with link to that article. Thoughts? Evercat 16:20 16 May 2003 (UTC)

I disagree. I created this page when there were but two uses of the word, but now there are numerous uses of the word listed. If there were but two uses, I think it'd be okay to have the camping (recreation) as the default with links to the others (e.g. at the top of the article). But since there are so many possible meanings listed here, I think its better to leave it as it is. Just MHO of course. :-) -Frecklefoot 18:03 16 May 2003 (UTC)

OK. Though I'm unsure that political camps or sports camps should be here, since they aren't really related to camping, the verb. And I have no idea why football is here. Evercat 18:06 16 May 2003 (UTC)

I thought some of the references were pretty obscure too. :-) If no one writes an article for any of the links in, say, a month, should we revisit this and move the camping (recreation) article to the top? -Frecklefoot 18:20 16 May 2003 (UTC)

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A game of football? Do tell. Kingturtle 17:51 16 May 2003 (UTC)

I'd never heard of it either, but according to this page, camping was a mediaeval game played in East Anglia. --Camembert

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handaxe needs disambiguation, though I always like to have some flints on me. --Yak 18:27, Mar 17, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Clean up intro

I am removing this from the second graf unless it can be sourced:

It continues to be a response to the increasing urbanization and isolation of Western society. Camping is often associated with a sense of nostalgia or of romanticism for 'the times of our fathers'. It simultaneously evokes images of 'oneness with nature' and 'man against nature' - independence and self-sufficiency ... Camping divides those who enjoy it from those who do not more distinctly than most other common leisure activities.

Daniel Case 13:04, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] bbq

is barbecue considered a staple in camping? there is no mention of it in this article. Chensiyuan 16:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

That depends on your definition of barbecue. Roasting hot dogs over a campfire is pretty common, as far as I can tell, and people cook all sorts of things in hot coals, but I haven't seen many barbecue grills at campsites. --Smack (talk) 21:25, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Depends people camping with large RVs may bring a barbeque grill. People tent camping probably won't - but cooking on a campfire is common. Rmhermen 22:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Developed campsites in the western U.S. commonly have barbecue grills installed, either as part of a fire ring or at waist height on a pole for easier cooking. Those campsites attract both RVers and tent campers. -Will Beback · † · 23:05, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

You're right; grills built into fire rings are common, but I'm not sure whether or not that's considered barbecue. --Smack (talk) 05:48, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

There's barbecue and then there's "barbecue". A bbq can be another name for a charcoal grill, or it can refer to an elaborate process of slowly cooking hunks of meat with a tasty marinade in a specialized roaster. I'd presumed that Chensiyuan meant the simple grill. -Will Beback · † · 08:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

thanks all on your input. im not from a part of the world where camping is commonplace. by 'barbecue' i simply meant cooking food over an outdoor fire.

OK, I've added the grills to this sentence:

• Most campers prefer to use sites with special facilities such as fire rings, barbecue grills, bathrooms and utilities, but not all campsites offer similar levels of development.

Does that sound right? -Will Beback · † · 09:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

sounds all right to me.Chensiyuan 09:04, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Sounsd Non-NPOV to me... can you source that? I know alot of people who prefer NOT to stay at campsites w/ grills and firepits (and lots of noisy RV's and stupid tourists)... etc. Leif902 13:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Good point. How about:

• 'Many campgrounds have sites with special facilities such as fire rings, barbecue grills, bathrooms and utilities, but not all campsites have similar levels of development.

Is that better?

-Will Beback · † · 23:04, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Sounds better to me. --Smack (talk) 05:35, 13 March 2007 (UTC)