Talk:Camping (computer gaming)

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Should the information at Gaming camping redirect here or be assimilated? --Mr Bound 05:00, Jan 1, 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Camping isn't always looked down as dishonourable 2 Flag camping? 3 Vandalism 4 Merging/Cleanup 5 Strategy Games 6 Just added waiting screen camping

[edit] Camping isn't always looked down as dishonourable

In America's Army for example, its encouraged for the defense team, and even assault to wear down the defending side's guard. This applies in many other games that feature tactics, and even in RTS that feature morale. -- Natalinasmpf 18:15, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Agreed, the whole article reads quite strongly POV to me. The problem is probably that all cases in which camping is acceptable it is longer called camping. "I wasn't camping, i was defending" (sound familiar?). The best way to go about this article is probably to focus on the derogatory meaning of camping, and redirect every sensible aspect of staying in one spot to tactical play/defending/sniping etc. No camper hater can argue that it makes sense for a sniper to be running around instead of staying put. In fact, in any (team-)version of a FPS game in which the objective is not primarily making kills, be it CTF, search and destroy, or whatever, the whole camper issue makes no sense. The main issue i have with this article is that in the entire FPS part of it, i see no mention of any grenades anywhere. When somebody camps, what do you do? A) You snipe them, B) you fragnade them, C) Bazooka style weapon D) flash nade E) smoke nade and get close. Counterstrategies should be included in the article. Siebren 23:55, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Flag camping?

The article says "For example, Capture the Flag provides incentive to invade enemy territory, regardless the risk, since scoring flags is more important than scoring frags."

In my experience, CTF sometimes leads to flag camping, where a large portion of a team, or sometimes the entire team, camps directly around the flag to prevent opposing teams from capturing it. This practice is sometimes used by a winning team to maintain a lead, and I've also seen it used as a frustration tactic. I'm not sure if this is common so I haven't included it myself. Thoughts? Some guy 07:02, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

See my comment above, happens, but is easily defeated by two to three or more determined attackers with high explosive weapons (frag grenades or similar). The main point is that in CTF you cannot win if everyone on your team truly camps. Half of the team on defense (flag camping) half of the team on offense (or some fraction) is a smart and often successful strategy, and defending inevitably means staying put and holding your ground. From my perspective, a team that first racks up a lead and then uses good/clever defense to maintain the lead deserves to win the round. Siebren 23:55, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism

Obviously, some people feel quite strongly about camping and I've noticed a lot of non-NPOV content being added to this article at times, so I've added the vandalism template. --TheCardinal 00:45, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merging/Cleanup

Okay, there is a link 'spawn camping' here that leads to 'Spawning(computer gaming)'. And at 'Spawning(computer gaming)' there is a link called 'spawn camping' pointing back to here. There also happens to be an article specifically called 'spawn camping.' Move, cleanup, merge, etc, is needed. I would argue this article should just be about Camping and links refering to spawn camping should go specifically to an article with that name. (MaxMangel 08:09, 1 February 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Strategy Games

The strategy games section is far too long, in my opinion. It is not necessary to go into so much detail, or be so specific. Opinions anyone?

[edit] Just added waiting screen camping

I didn't find another suitable term for such type of camping. Take a look to the description and see if that term fits. By the way check my grammar! Thanx! --189.135.145.138 08:49, 30 December 2006 (UTC)