Talk:Camp Tuckahoe

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[edit] Copyright issues?

There looks like there are copyright issues with this article, but I'm still a newbie, and am really not confortable yet with the instructions here, so I'm just going to add the sources, and ask that someone else look this over to see if I really did spot a issue. Thanks --63.224.140.19 07:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the copyright violation (copyvio) instructions are rather confusing. It does look like the text is taken wholesale from [1]. Here is what we do for this article:

  1. Cut out the offending text and note the copyvio in the summary edit (look at the article history).
  2. Since this chops this particular article to a stub, add a Scout-stub tag (edit the page to see this).
  3. Done for now.
We could look at the history, figure out who left the text and leave a message that we made this change due to a copyvio. but User:Tuckahoescouter does not have a talk or dicsussion page, so this is probably pointless.

The only time you need to slap the copyvio tag on an article is if you cannot remove the text and leave something. IMHO, the copyvio procedure is over-used since most of the issues can be speedily resolved by a good editor. The originating page does show "all rights reserved", so the inclusion of this text was bad. Even text that is not copyrighted for some reason should not be included wholesale: see Wikipedia:Don't include copies of primary sources.

The other things wrong with this article is that the song is not encylopedic, and the name is wrong: . I have no idea why, but it seems like everyone who adds a camp is adding some song or other. I'm going to leave it be and let you edit it as you desire at this point. Remember, you can't really break anything that you can't revert, so be bold. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 21:30, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

I fixed the article name issue by adding a new article with an exact copy of the state of the article at the time and then changing this article location to a redirect. Thanks -- Argon233 22:02, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Four Chaplains

Another plan for the future is the memorial chapel for which a site has been cleared, but which will not be started this Summer. To honor the late Rabbi [Alexander D.] Goode, one of the four chaplains who gave up their life preservers to others and thus perished in the sinking of the Troopship S. S. Dorchester during the war, members of the Jewish fraternity raised about $15,000 for the chapel. Rabbi Goode, a former York Clergyman, and Scout leader of Troop 37, was active in youth work.

http://www.yaac-bsa.org/camping/tuckahoe/Camp%20Tuckahoe%20History.pdf --evrik 20:14, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Prior article

Please see this link for history of previous edits on the article with the origional name, and see Talk:Camp Tuckahoe, York-Adams Area Council, Boy Scouts of America for prior discussions on this topic. Thanks -- Argon233 21:59, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] expansion request

In compliance with Scouting WikiProject policy on sub-council entities, I propose the expansion of this article into a larger York-Adams Area Council article, with information added from Scouting_in_Pennsylvania#York-Adams_Area_Council. Local articles really need to be council level rather than by camp or lodge. Examples of good Council articles include Cradle of Liberty Council and Chester County Council, all others have been or are stubs, and we really are trying to avoid sub-council articles. Chris 01:40, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

  • I really think the prior article was better. I think it should be moved back to the old name, and the text article moved to the Scouitng in Pennsylvania article. --evrik 14:58, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
  • There being no objection, I'm going to go ahead and make the changes to Talk:Camp Tuckahoe. --evrik 18:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC)