Talk:Calvinism

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[edit] Delisted GA

It seems that this article did not go through the GA nomination process. Looking at the article as is, it fails on criteria 2 in that it does not cite any sources. Most Good Articles use inline citations. I would recommend that this be fixed and submit the article through the nomination process. --RelHistBuff 11:49, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Calvin and Salvation

Can a contributor here add a one sentence summary of the Calvin view of salvation to the salvation page? We need some help --Just nigel 06:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Seems like someone else had a shot at this already, but I've gone through and made some changes (eg. sola gratia is not "an alternative view" to sola fide :) ).

-- TimNelson 12:50, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I made a quick edit of the calvinism page but it is dirty, and shoudl be cleaned up. Wyatt 20:47, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Calvinism and Hungary

[1] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.3.181.216 (talk) 15:37, 5 January 2007 (UTC). [2]

[edit] Intro paragraph

Flex, the introduction is poorly worded and does not give the reader much useful information at all. To say that "Calvinism is a system of Christian theology and an approach to Christian life" is about as helpful as saying that an apple is a round thing that grows on a tree and eventually falls off. Such an explanation is so general that it's meaningless. Furthermore, the first sentence is inordinately long and unintelligible. I don't even understand what the end of the sentence means: "his interpretation of Scripture, and perspective on Christian life and theology." Since my edit seems to have been objectionable, I ask you to suggest a rewording for the intro paragraph.—Emote _{Talk Page} 21:38, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Sorry. I forgot about this. I agree that the old intro was confusing, and I have made some revisions to your latest. Feel free to continue tweaking. --Flex (talk|contribs) 14:17, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Seven Point Calvinism

This is used by many people now, that explains Double Predestination and Best of All Possible Worlds and is an important concept to Calvinism. It should be mentioned somehow, so I added it. Wyatt 21:06, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

I removed this because it does not seem common. As far as I can tell this is primarily a Piper thing^[3][4] that is not very wide-spread. Does any other well-known Calvinist use this term? If not, I'd suggest that it would be more apropos at John Piper (theologian). --Flex (talk|contribs) 01:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] What is a Calvinist?

And where does one go to find out? The page on "Calvinist" merges into here. Are Reformed Baptists Calvinists? What is the difference between being Calvinistic and being Reformed? We should have a discussion of this somewhere... StAnselm 03:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

The problem is, as I have recently said at Template_talk:Calvinism and Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_April_4#Category:Reformed_theologians, that there is no consensus on this matter and the terms "Calvinist" and "Reformed" are often used rather freely and interchangeably in reliable sources to describe anyone from Calvin to Spurgeon to Barth. Any attempt to enforce the distinctions of our particular theological viewpoint on these terms is therefore not in keeping with the WP's neutrality policy. We could, however, make an effort to describe the various categorizations of Calvin's followers from reliable sources, and perhaps this would assist in coming up with a better category scheme, too. --Flex (talk|contribs) 19:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

Yes, and we probably should have a explanation of the terms "Calvinist" and "Reformed" in this article as well. (Interestingly, some people use "Calvinist" in a wider sense than "Reformed", and some use it in a narrower sense.) Yes - I meant a description rather than enforcing distinctions. Though presumably those in the Wiki Calvinism Project are allowed to use their own definitions. But I noticed there was a comment on Reformed Baptist concerning some thinking that Reformed Baptists are not really Reformed - there should be an expanded explanation here, possibly tied to a section on the Reformed view of the Sacraments. StAnselm 23:55, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Other problems

This article needs a lot more work, particularly on the evangelical nature of Calvinism (central beliefs rather than distinctives), the Calvinistic view of Scripture, and the sacraments. Any takers? StAnselm 04:42, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Right, and it needs citations from reliable sources all around. This is particularly important since this is the flagship article for WP:CALVINISM. We need to push this to GA ASAP, IMHO. TTFN. etc. --Flex (talk|contribs) 19:20, 9 April 2007 (UTC)