Talk:California State University, Long Beach

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[edit] Pyramid image in infobox

I recommend moving the pyramid image in the infobox further down the article and putting the school logo/shield/emblem in the infobox, as is done on other college and university pages. – MementoVivere 20:43, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The Pyramid picture doesn't have any copyright info listed for it, so it may have to be removed anyway. My guess is that it is probably a publicity picture for the CSULB and is copyrighted. I may purchase a digital camera in the next month, so maybe I will then be able to shoot a replacement that will have a proper GFDL license.

As for moving the picture (at least while it's still here)—Be bold! BlankVerse ∅ 14:16, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

As far as the prominant position of the pyramid; The school has become much identified with it. It appears prominantly on campus clothing, regalia, literature and has been incorporated into various campus logos. [1] It is in effect a much loved symbol of the school and is not out of place in it's current position. --SAUNDERS 01:48, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

Ok, I've changed my mind. I think a the school logo would be nice in that position but I'm haveing difficulty finding a quality logo. If the pyramid does get moved I don't think it should be removed from the article for the reasons I wrote about on June 16 --SAUNDERS 02:38, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

The following is from the United States Copyright office website under Title 17 chapter 1:

[2]

"The “United States”, when used in a geographical sense, comprises the several States, the District of Columbia and the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, and the organized territories under the jurisdiction of the United States Government."

CSULB as a California State entity is a jurisdiciton under the United States Government

Further under Section 105 of the same code:

"Copyright protection under this title is not available for any work of the United States Government, but the United States Government is not precluded from receiving and holding copyrights transferred to it by assignment, bequest, or otherwise."

Ergo, CSULB as an entity under the U.S. Government is not allowed to copyright images thus the image of the pyramid is within legitimate use.

Please correct me if I'm wrong. It wouldn't be the first or the last time.

Almost all US Govt. publications are in the public domain which is the reason that the Wikipedia can use the images from NASA, for just one example. Even most publications from the State of California government are in the public domain (although that is not true for all states), which is the reason that I could use both text and drawings from the Calif. Dept. of Fish and Game for much of the recently grunion article. The California State University system, however, is a separate entity, and will have different rules. If the picture is truely from the CSULB publicity dept., then it may be just a matter of getting the school to license the image according to the GFDL (if you do contact them, it is best to explain upfront that what you will be using will be a smaller, lower-resolution version of their image (72-100 dpi)). On the other hand, I have not had much luck in persuading government agencies to license their images for use on the Wikipedia. BlankVerse ∅ 13:21, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Tuition

Tuition is now significantly higher, at over $2800/year.

Tuition is actually $0 a year. Fees, however are at $2864 per year, assuming the student takes only Fall and Spring courses as a full-time student. Nonetheless, this is still very inexpensive. I'll make the change. Someone might want to check if, as the article states, we are really the least expensive (which seems highly unlikely to me).

Alumni

Suggest that someone make a seperate page for "Long Beach State People" as the current page is unwieldy and I have been adding the large number of sports alumni to the page.

[edit] Ron Young (bad link)

The link formerly used for Ron Young (professor) went to a reality game show contestant. I removed it. I can't tell if the professor has a page in Wikipedia, but it doesn't look like he does. If he does, someone needs to create a disambiguation page for both Ron Youngs. Pschelden 22:00, 16 March 2007 (UTC)