Talk:C minor
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Hmm... it says in subtext on the edit page that whoever wrote the intro wants it to be b-flat, so that it listed the harmonic minor instead of natural minor. Seeing as this doesn't agree with the picture on the left, and the fact that c minor generally means c Italic textnaturalItalic textminor, I'll go ahead and change it. And would the person who wrote this article (and the f minor article, on that page) please clarify this?71.102.172.40 04:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
You're both right. I changed it from b to b-flat. Oh, and I fixed the f minor page too.71.102.172.40 04:07, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't have a login account and have never edited wiki but I just wanted to mention something.
The sentence at the top of the article reads "C minor (abbreviated Cm) is a minor scale based on C, consisting of the pitches C, D, E-flat, F, G, A-flat, B and C (harmonic minor scale). Its key signature consists of three flats".
Shouldn't it read "C minor (abbreviated Cm) is a minor scale based on C, consisting of the pitches C, D, E-flat, F, G, A-flat, B-flat and C (harmonic minor scale). Its key signature consists of three flats"?
Note, B-flat is listed as B in the existing sentence giving us only two flats, not the three in the signature.
Since I'm a newbie at this (at editing wiki and at music theory) I'll leave it to the experts to make the change if needed.
The F minor page has this same type of issue so if I'm right whoever edits this might want to look there as well.
[edit] Natural/Harmonic minor error?
The intro list the notes of the harmonic minor scale, while the sidebar lists the natural minor scale. Surely this isn't right? C Minor implies the natural minor scale, the harmonic minor should have it's own page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.70.246.116 (talk) 03:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC).
[edit] Be careful when editing!
"B-flat which becomes a B natural in the song because of the raised 7th :)"
There's a grammatical error here -- the clause beginning with "which" should be separated out by commas, parentheses, or dashes. And also, who put a smiley face in an encyclopedia text? No wonder you're not supposed to cite encyclopedia articles...
Also, hypothetically, shouldn't all the articles for the keys have the same form? Some have a graphic of the scale, some just have the key signature, &c. Personally I think they should be standardized. Thoughts? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Realms of Gold (talk • contribs) 06:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC).
[edit] The B flat vs. B natural debate
I know it's been changed in the article already, but since it's still in the comments, I thought I'd just add: It's incorrect to say that B natural belongs in the C minor scale. The whole point is that it doesn't -- that minor scales don't have leading tones. Composers are always putting them in because that's how diatonicism works, but check out any composition with a minor tonal area and you'll find the lowered 7th scale degree everywhere. It's part of what makes composing in the minor key so interesting :) At least until Wagner came along, anyway.The Realms of Gold 06:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
