Talk:Byford Dolphin

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1 Reference
2 Typos?
3 "Description warning"
4 Investigation
5 Copyvio
6 Why are the divers references like they are?

[edit] Reference

I advise people not to seek out the referenced article unless they have a strong stomach. It contains some disturbing photographs that would not be out of place at rotten.com. -- FP ^{<talk><edits>} 22:49, May 12, 2005 (UTC)

I hope such scum editors crawling in the gutter at such exploitation sites, will never get their hands on any forensic photographs from this accident and if they do, may they rot in hell!--mark.t 14:51, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I agree those sites are horrible. -- FP ^{(talk)(edits)} 04:42, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Typos?

"The igor mortis was unusually strong. The hypostases were light red, and in two cases there were numerous petechial hemorrhages in the livors." i'm no doctor, but livors sounds wrong, and 'igor mortis' is just funny. -- Pauli133

There should be a link for rigor mortis, and there is if you look at the page source, but for some reason it's just not linking right. I've had this happen on my own wiki page and I think it's just a bug in the mediawiki somewhere. -- 12.218.2.203

It seems to be fixed now. -- FP ^{<talk><edits>} 00:51, May 14, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "Description warning"

This article has the most graphic description of "mutilation" I've read on a wikipedia article, or really anywhere. I suggest we trim it back or at the very least add some sort of strong warning. -- 69.198.110.248

Well, that doesn't bother me much. It's pretty clinical. But it would be great if we had an on-line version of that article somewhere. Lupo 22:08, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

Being graphic doesn't seem to bother the folks at, say, the oral sex talk page. Though in this case, I agree that a clinical presentation of the details is important, potentially disturbing or not. It's not as if we have inline images here. Vonspringer 22:26, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

I acknowlege that it is a graphic article. But remember Wikipedia is not censored and as Lupo says, "it's pretty clinical." -- FP ^{(talk)(edits)} 04:42, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

The graphic description is needed, as it was a horrific accident, which occurred and the worst diving accident ever recorded. A description warning could be made, but as it is clinical described, from the pathology report and includes no pictures from that report here at wikipedia. I don't personally think it's necessary, due to it's importance to the general public unaware of this tragedy and of medical interest. Pressurized diving/chamber & bell systems ARE extremely dangerous, and do terrible things to the human body when something goes wrong, as in this case.--mark.t 14:46, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

That has got to be the best description of what happens to the human body during explosive decompression I've ever read. You hear about it in any books or movies that mention how the difference in pressure can kill you, but I never imagined it anything like that. Thumbs up to whoever wrote that piece! -- Ghostalker

Well thanks :) I know it is an unpleasant and graphic topic but a lot of people are interested in it and it is important to show how dangerous these pressure vessels can be. -- FP ^{(talk)(edits)} 04:42, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Investigation

What's up with all those weasel words? The article currently says "Some individuals have alleged that the investigation was a cover-up...". Who said so? Are there any Newspaper reports? And are "outboard pressure gauges and safe communication system"(s) still not mandatory, or what? Lupo 22:08, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

I agree, I'll ask User:Mark.T who made the claim to offer some evidence. -- FP ^{<talk><edits>} 00:51, May 14, 2005 (UTC)

"outboard pressure gauges and safe communication system"(s) still ARE mandatory, and where even long before the accident took place, and those are some of the things that where covered up and not mentioned on purpose, by the investigating committee, I have read the offical committee report released by the norwegian goverment, and there is no mention of such vital equipment, Though there were representatives from the norwegian oil directorate, who travelled out to the rig during the contracted work & made dispensations before the accident took place, they meant that since there was such a short time left on the contract, That such equipment was unnecessary, which proved to be extremely fatal, on the 5 of nov 1983 for the divers inside the pressurised system. I also personally know one of Diving supervisors, who was not on that shift at the time of the accident, but was sent out along with another diver, to 'clean up' the chamber system & the remains of his killed colleagues afterwards, can you imagine! It is well known that dispensations made by the norwegian oil directorate proved to be fatal, among former deep sea divers. The whole accident has been hushed down ever since it happended, that is why it is not well documented at all until know at wikipedia. Other than a small article released by the norwegian goverments information service http://www.odin.no/ and the offical committee report on the accident. You can also read some old norwegian newspaper reports on the accident from 6nov 1983, but you would not get much of a story from it. --mark.t 14:19, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Copyvio

I have removed some material from the article because it was taken verbatim from the printed reference (plus it went into too much detail I think). Everyone please remember the copyvio rules. -- FP ^{<talk><edits>} 00:51, May 14, 2005 (UTC)