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Were there ever any references to Byakuya's age? --Koudanshi

I don't believe so. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 14:59, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to add the japanese kanjis to Senkei Senbonzakura Kageyoshi. Becuase I'm only going by what Dattebayo's sub say >_>.

Wouldn't Ukitake being his senpai also make Shunsui Kyōraku his senpai? --123fakestreet

I don't think he meant senpai in the direct meaning of the word, but probably because he used to serve under Ukitake, who taught him (senpai are supposed to teach stuff to kouhai). Can't verify this of course, but your claim can't be verified either AFAIK. -- Ynhockey 20:52, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Neji-Byakuya Comparison

Addressing the reasons it got deleted...personally, I see the change from stopping at nothing to make sure Rukia is executed to saving her life as objective, not speculation per se. Also, I now realise I was wrong about the episode in which they're defeated, but his change of heart towards Rukia is in Episode 61, I believe, which is around Episode 62. SpionKop 21:11, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

It is not clear that Byakuya ever changed, that is just widely assumed by fans. Byakuya had made an oath to follow the rules, which included the execution of Rukia. However, when it was revealed that Aizen was a traitor and Rukia's execution order was not legitimate, he would no longer be breaking the rules by not seeking to execute her (and by saving her, he'd be protecting the promise to Hisana to protect Rukia). It seems to me that, both before and after his fight with Ichigo, Byakuya basically followed the oaths he made to his parents and Hisana. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 21:18, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
Okay, so not a change in him per se, but certainly a change in his actions and how the viewer/reader is led to characterise him. Even if his actions were guided by promises that he had made prior to the Soul Society arc rather than his own personal feelings, I'm sure Kubo Tite was deliberately trying to change the way the viewer/reader saw Byakuya. So I guess he's different from Neji in a sense, but there's still that parallel. SpionKop 21:38, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
There is a slight parallel, but not worth mentioning. Besides, the two have completely different motives. Neji hates his family, while Byakuya is attempting to display his loyalty to them. --Tjstrf 22:22, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
It's true they're not completely similar, but a link between Uryuu and Sasuke is mentioned, and I feel as if the link between Neji and Byakuya is in line with that (even though they have different voice actors).
I don't think that connection should really be mentioned either. However, it is much closer in their case, because of the voice actor being the same. Byakuya and Neji are not even the same character archetype. At least Ishida and Sasuke are both varients on the equal rival archetype, though Ishida is a recruited enemy rather than a turned friend. --Tjstrf 22:44, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Senbonzakura vs. Zenbonsakura

I've noticed that some translations, the letters are swapped around so it reads 'Zenbonsakura' instead of 'Senbonzakura' Is there really much difference? RedEyesMetal 10:56, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

I've seen that before as well. It does have the word part "Sakura" when swapped like that, which is nice. I always thought "Senbonsakura" made the most sense personally, why make it a Z one place and an S the other? --tjstrf 16:01, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Senbonzakura is the only correct writing. Anything else is wrong. A kanji cannot deviate from its original reading at the start of a word, therefore, Zenbonzakura cannot be correct in any way. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 10:31, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Too many images.

Could someone explain why we need 5 images of Byakuya, 3 of which only illustrate different bankai techniques? We only use 5 pictures to illustrate the entire main Bleach page. This has been bugging me for a while now. The current format is particularly horrid and makes the text into some sort of weird stair-step arrangement. --tjstrf talk 03:13, 18 November 2006 (UTC) -I'm guessing it's just an overzealous fan who having a sugar rush. lol.

Actually I don't oppose having an image for each bankai technique, although the shikai image sucks. A good article illustrates in pictures what is difficult to understand with words, and IMO this applies to the various techniques. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 10:00, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
How hard is it to explain the techniques, really? The shikai makes a bunch of tiny flying blades. The bankai makes a bunch of tiny flying blades. The bankai special techniques make a bunch of large flying blades and wings, respectively. Compared with something like explaining what the kurohitsugi does, it's very simple. --tjstrf talk 10:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Headpiece

If i recall in the manga vol. 4, Byakuya's headpiece are supposedly metal tubes that denotes nobility not white. or maybe I'm just nitpicking.


[edit] Final Release Kanji?

I get a bit confused with the name of his second final release "Senkei" read as 殲景. Annihilation is usually read as "せんめつ" though isn't it? Wikifried 17:22, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bit of Trivia

This is the first trivia item: "During the Soul Society Arc, when Jūshirō Ukitake asks who Ichigo is, Byakuya replies: "No relation. At least, not to the man who just flashed through your mind, my senior." This could be a reference to Ichigo's father, Isshin Kurosaki, implying Byakuya not only knew the man, but disbelieves that he and Ichigo are related."

I think it's way more likely that the reference is to Kaien, who was Ukitake's lieutenant.

I agree, because several characters mention that Ichigo looks alot like Kaien. Temari of Suna 19:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC)