Talk:Butthole Surfers

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Contents 1 Revision project 2 Peer review 3 New album 4 Bass players 5 Surfers, not Surface 6 Deleat, Deleat, Deleat! 7 Reverts on major 2/21 revision 8 Nice work 9 GA comment

[edit] Revision project

Posted the completely revamped intro tonight. That said, it needs 5 facts (in some cases, major facts) sourced. I know this information is out there somewhere, so I'll be looking for it tomorrow. In the meantime, if anyone else working on this project can find references for the unsourced items, feel free to add them in.

Alternately, if anyone feels it's too early to post this in light of the missing references, feel free to revert; I have the whole thing stored in a Word doc, and can add it back in once I've found the sources.

Will be revamping the rest of it over the next week or so. All info removed from the original intro (especially Gibby & Paul's meeting in college) will get added back in when I redo the "History" section.Thehaikumaster 04:47, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

Those facts are all sourced, as are all the others that have been added so far.Thehaikumaster 04:31, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Main history section now complete & sourced, barring light additional editing. Thehaikumaster 00:15, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Peer review

FYI to anyone still tinkering with this article -- it has received an initial "B" rating, and has been officially submitted for Peer Review. If you add anything at this point, please be sure to provide a source. Similarly, if you modify any sourced info, or delete it, please provide another source that proves the first source is wrong. Thehaikumaster 19:26, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] New album

Before History section got complete revamp, it had a mention about Gibby Haynes confirming a new album back in August. I couldn't find anything online to support it, so if anyone does have a source, please include if you re-add. Thehaikumaster 02:21, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Gibby mentioned it when he DJ'ed on Sirius Satellite Radio back on (I think) August 18, 2006. There are MP3s of the broadcast floating around. Gruntmaster flush 20:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bass players

Re: earlier edit note about bass players, I don't plan on providing a complete accounting of them. If anyone else wants to fill in those gaps, feel free! Thehaikumaster 01:57, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Surfers, not Surface

219.88.3.77 had replaced many occurances of "Surfers" with "Surface". Not sure why. It's fixed now.--64.122.49.30 02:36, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deleat, Deleat, Deleat!

What a horrible album so rude I haven't herd of this band has anyone else? bah, the rubbish people put on! Czesc26

What is even the point of a Talk post like this? First, learn how to spell. Second, learn how to differentiate between an album and a band. Third, to each their own. Incidentally, rest assured the Butthole Surfers haven't heard of you, either. Thehaikumaster 00:03, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Reverts on major 2/21 revision

As the primary author of this page, I reverted the majority of changes made by Chris77xyz. First, this article is currently undergoing Peer Review, and two experienced users have been over it and didn't suggest any of the changes made in this revision. Specifics include:

• Reverted most of intro, as additions were unsourced & removal of sourced material was unexplained;
• Reverted a number of other changes that don't mesh with the cited references;
• Reinserted section intros, as sections are supposed to start with an overview of the topic discussed (also, in the current Peer Review, no indication has been given that section intros should be removed or shortened, and they have suggested shortening/removing other areas);
• Completely reverted "Live Performance" section, as there was no reason to remove the sourced info, and again, a suggestion to remove or shorten it has not come up in the peer review (Update: did modify it and the sentence or 2 in main history body to make them less similar);
• Thayil is sourced to the Azerrad book, just like the rest of the paragraph;
• Reinserted Surfers/Rusk opposing viewpoints on T&G lawsuit, as part of Wiki's purpose is to provide opposing viewpoints in such cases;
• Original rotating use of "release" and "publish" was intentional, so as to avoid using the exact same words over and over again (or different iterations of same word in one sentence);
• Reinserted "ridiculous internal links," as they all have active pages on Wikipedia and no Peer Review suggestions have been made to remove them (though they did suggest removing most red-linked names, which was done). And why make it difficult for readers to learn more about a subject if they want to?;
• Re-broke up some combined paragraphs so as to keep similar topics in separate paragraphs, and to not lump a variety of topics into one paragraph;
• Re-alphabetized genres;
• Other minor reverts due to changes to improper use of capitalization;
• Did keep some changes, but only those that didn't go against proper writing or existing references, and that didn't remove cited information. Thehaikumaster 00:17, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Nice work

Nice work on this page! 71.34.38.19071.34.38.190

Thanks; couldn't have written it without the help of a lot of other people. Thehaikumaster 01:26, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA comment

With just a quick glance over the article, I saw that some of the images need fair use rationales. I'd recommend adding them, or someone may quick-fail the article. --Nehrams2020 01:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Zoiks, thanks! Have removed all but the top image. Wish it had more pictures, but it's real hard to find fair-use Butthole Surfers articles, much less free ones. Thehaikumaster 01:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Reviewed this article, and I think it meets the good article criteria. It is very well written and referenced. With regard to the one image at the top, based on the editors' arguments ('Image:Butthole Surfers modern.jpg'), I believe it falls under the fair use clause as a promotional photo, so I have added the appropriate copyright tag to that image. I do agree with the previous call to remove other images from the article, and I agree that one photo at the top is needed for the page, but also that the well-written content of the article stands on its own as a GA. Good work! Dr. Cash 00:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)