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[edit] Religion of Peace
Please stop replacing this article with the "Islam" article. BhaiSaab talk 19:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Answering-Islam.org
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I have blocked you for 6 hours for repeatedly replacing the Religion of Peace article with content from Islam. Please edit constructively after returning from your block. If you intend to make major changes to any article discuss on the talk page first. Regards, - Aksi_great (talk) 20:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Your vandalism
In fact Islam means submission, as (almost) everyone knows. Your statement that killing one person is the same as killing all of mankind is also incorrect. You can read three translations of the Qur'anic verse here. In fact you'll see that it is Muhammad telling the Jews that if they kill a Muslim, they'll be in serious trouble. The next verse gives possible (harsh) punishments for them, as well as for anyone who causes Muhammad "mischief." As regards Muslims hating rapists, that is another matter. In a modern country, this (or read it here) would be prosecuted as rape. Arrow740 02:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
- A lot of the stuff in your post was true, and I already knew it. I believe in God too, just not the storm god who started out as one god of many and ended up the god of Abraham. You might be interested to know that India is the most religious nation on Earth, and that is largely because of the Hindus. You said you didn't want to debate, and that's fine. Here's a question that's not really about Islam. Is God not perfect? Yes. Does that mean he is as forgiving and merciful as possible? Yes. Then why would he send a man to eternal hell? Why not give him another chance on earth, if he screwed up? Arrow740 08:07, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
- Muhammad's kindness and tenderness is now widely accepted in scholarly sources. See Professor Montgomary Watt's passage from his book: "Muhammad:Prophet and Statesman"[1] . The persecution which was conducted was of special nature. You've already read the article Itmam al-hujjah. This was purely a Divine judgement and now no one can repeat this and no one can say that he has been asked by God to separate good people from bad and finally punish them in this very world. You need to widen your view to see the world from a different angle. We need to create a better world where we all respect each other. Just like Qur'an says to direct addressees of Muhammad who were Christians and Jews, :Come to the point where we all agree that Abraham was neither Jew nor a Christian. Cheers! TruthSpreaderTalk 11:01, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
Please stop posting essays to my talk page. Nothing but a gun to my head would make me convert to Islam. The Quran contradicts science, morality, history, logic, and itself, and that's just the beginning of the problems with Islam. See WP:SOAP. Wikipedia is not the place for these essays. Arrow740 03:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Your last essay was interesting (though inappropriate). I think all religions work against unbelief equally. Islam goes too far by advocating death sentences for people who stop believing in Islam. Arrow740 03:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
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Salaam! You didn't understand Itmam al-hujjah completely. Qur'an is full of stories that how God destroyed nations before prophet Muhammad and similar thing happened with the addresses of the prophet. Hence, only messenger can do Itmam al-hujjah, not me or you. And this very punishment of adversaries of the messenger, which gives us a sure proof of the Messenger's truth and that he really had the God on his side. As Montgomery watt writes that how Muhammad made this upsurge in religion, no other phenomenon can explain but Divine help. So, we should be rest assured that by having the punishment of the adversaries of prophet Muhammad, we can tell till day of Judgement to our children that there was aprophet, who did Itmam al-hujjah and God punished his enemies. This part of the religion is called "Wisdom" or Hikmah of the religion. Rest is "Kitab" or Sharia or simply Laws. Hope you have understood this concept. Cheers! TruthSpreaderTalk 06:33, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
- So assassination of political opponents, execution of prisoners, and torturing a man to death are now a sign that Muhammad was holy??!! Arrow740 07:01, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
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- Mate! you need to acquaint yourself with the philosophy of the religion. Muhammad's personality is very well-known in scholarly circles for good character. there is no question of being him unholy. Secondly, I also find all the punishments by all the Governments to be quite brutal i.e. life imprisonment, labour work, prisonment in a cubic cell etc. But there is a reason why governments do that. The God chooses his messengers to do that so that people would remember day of judgement when everyone will be held accountable for his/her deeds. Hence, a messenger only rehearses what is going to happen at a larger scale. Hence, I find a philosophical paradox, if God wouldn't punish his enemies in this world who challenge Him infront of His messenger, otherwise no one would know that this very person was sent by God. And I find Christian concept of God in which God is just peace and bad things came to this world by original sin as defective, because it would mean that God didn't have the control over evil, and this concept also challenges God's absolute power. TruthSpreaderTalk 08:27, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
Assalam-O-Alaikum
First of all, I would liks to say thanks for your Kind response. Then I must say that It may be possible that I didn't understand that article(Itmam al-hujjah) completely. Similarly, my dear brother, it may be possible that you(User:Arrow740) do not understand Islam completely. I think that you never read the Holy Quraan and you just read the verses that some anti-Muslims give to you with their own translations.
Then I must say that the Islam never said to Kill a single innocent human just due to his belief. The only one possibility is that if a Muslim turns to a non-Muslim. In this case, how the Islam can spread? When a non-Muslim is reverted to a Muslim, he is told about this, but still, Islam is the fastest growing religion, why? Other way, every one can claim to be Muslim and you know what can happen with Islam? It is the method to protect the religion.
That is why I say that Islam has the MOST resistance against the religion of disbelief. It is only the religion whose followers are religious even in USA. A common Hindu in USA is not a Hindu, he behaves like Athiest, similarly, no other (common) followers are religious, but Muslims are. Muslims girls still like Hijab, for what? Because they love Islam. Every muslim loves his religion. Non-Muslims usually become neutral when they debate with Muslims, why? Because they cannot defend their religion against Islam.
That is why my dear brother, it is the only religion left in the World whose followers respect it. You can find a christian making the cartoons of God, a hindu challanging the God, but Muslims respect their religion. Our FAITH is very strong and very clear.
Some people say that it is due to the fear of punishmints. My dear brother, there is no end of such arguments. Muslims have no punishments in USA. Most of the respect is due to strong faith, the punishments are for a few people, out of billlions.
For example, my faith is so strong that I cannot deny God. I do not need any proof of God's existance, similarly, I do not need any proof of God's non-existance. A muslim believes in God regardless of any historical or scientific fact.
If you put a Gun on my head and say me to deny God, I'll never. If you kill me and suppose, Give a new life to me and again put the Gun on my head and say to deny God, I'll never. The more you kill, the more I'll be happy. I'll love to be killed 1000 times then denying God just once.
This is how strong our faith is. Now, this faith is not against any religion as general. It is just our own faith. When any one accepts Islam, He has to assume that he will be kiled, but he will not deny the God.
You see, how the Islam is strong against the religion of disbelief? It is the only religion that can protect the humanity against the religion of disbelief. So that is why I give preferance to Islam.
Read these verses of the Quraan:
"Recite to them the truth of the story of the two sons of Adam. Behold! they each presented a sacrifice (to Allah): It was accepted from one, but not from the other. Said the latter: "Be sure I will slay thee." "Surely," said the former, "Allah doth accept of the sacrifice of those who are righteous. If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear Allah, the cherisher of the worlds. For me, I intend to let thee draw on thyself my sin as well as thine, for thou wilt be among the companions of the fire, and that is the reward of those who do wrong. The (selfish) soul of the other led him to the murder of his brother: he murdered him, and became (himself) one of the lost ones. Then Allah sent a raven, who scratched the ground, to show him how to hide the shame of his brother. "Woe is me!" said he; "Was I not even able to be as this raven, and to hide the shame of my brother?" then he became full of regrets. On that account: We ordained for the Children of Israel that if any one slew a person - unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land - it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people. Then although there came to them Our messengers with clear signs, yet, even after that, many of them continued to commit excesses in the land."Holy Quraan(005.027)
Islam says not to kill them until they start killing you. And this verse was clearly misunderstood by the user:Arrow740.
Once, the Prophet Muhammad went to the velly of TAIF, to spread the truth. The people started stoning on him. Even Muhammad's shoes were red from blood. The angel Jibrail was very angry But Muhammad said that may God take them to the truth one day, as this is the best for them. This is what Islam teaches us.
Yes, the disasters come and sometimes they are from God on evil. They disasters also come on to testify the faiths, on good people. There is no such rule that they only come from God. Most of the times, they are natural.
If they are from the God, The never come until people start disbelieving in God or killing the messengers or there are some other points that we can find in Quraan and Hadith, but not just due to not believing in Islam.
If disasters come on good people, the Islam tells us they they are to test the faiths(believe in God), so more the disasters come, the more the Islam gets stronger.
Muhammad indicated the concuer of many Developed States of That Time even when there were just a few Muslims. You can find a List of indications that are now true.
Dear brother, there is no single conflict between Quraan and science. You can find many conflicts, but they all are answered. No single conflict at all!
You told about the Christian concept of God. My dear, I do not want to criticise any religion here, not at all. I just want to expose the lies that are spreaded in your minds by the liars.
Assalam-O-Alaikum--Builder w 07:36, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
