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[edit] Countering systemic bias

We seem to be almost ready to go live with Wikipedia:WikiProject countering systemic bias. I know you were interested earlier. Xed seems to have dropped out, so we are back to the broader focus I was advocating. I'd love to have you aboard. Please, sign up as a participant and also, please weigh soon in on anything you'd like to see changed before we really announce this. -- Jmabel 23:42, Oct 4, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Proposal for (some) peace in the world of genocide (I hope)

Regarding proposal number one. Definately I would support the creation of such an article on the Americas. Rather than just genocide, ethnocide, etc regarded things however, we need to include the background information, such as the local tribes, the indian removal act and Cherokee Nation v. Georgia, etc. From there we can discuss what was genocidal, what was the ethnic-cleansing and how it all fits into the definition of ethnocide.

I also strongly support the second proposal of a seperate article linked off the main page for Israel-Palestine genocide. Mainly a good opportunity to put up all the information we can, as you said, and to form a clear argument as opposed to made up facts from either side, such as Jenin Refugee Camp Massacre, where I can give evidence showing how only a 10th of the camp was destroyed and figures showing how little were injured. I'm happy you decided to address this in a proper manner and I hope we can work together making these two clear articles. Evolver of Borg 18:13, Oct 18, 2004 (UTC)

Got the message. I went a bit fast last night when I first read the proposal so we already have a seperate page for Israel Palestine at Genocide in Israel Palestine. I just put the old info there and linked it off the page. We can move it elsewhere but I already created it, although I do like your title better.

On your idea for Native Americans. I didn't realise you meant all the things leading up to The Removal, but if we're going to do that, then that's swell. I'm not really sure that the title you suggested for that one though is really appropriate. By Jackson's time you already had whites who had been in America for some time. A more appropriate title maybe, Persecution and Pain Suffered By Natives Americans Under Colonial America and the USA, as it is a bit broader and notes both intentional and unintentional stuff. Evolver of Borg 19:05, Oct 19, 2004 (UTC)

I see what your saying regarding the Native Americans regarding the settlers. I'm not a big expert on American Colonial History, but I'd presume that the case would be similar to in Australia, where the natives were provoked, retailiated and then got hit back a lot harder. See Warrigal Creek Massacre in Genocidal Massacre. You can add the stuff but it'd most likely merge in between the provoking event and the European retailiation event.

I know what you're trying to get at with "effects", but it isn't really specific enough. I could say several effects of colonization include the construction of the Empire State Building, the American Civil War, etc. We need a more accurate title.Evolver of Borg 22:04, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)

I like that title better, but maybe we need a bit more accuracy. Native Americans Under Colonial North America maybe. Problem with both though is that they doesn't absorb US into the picture. Maybe History of Native American-Colonial American Tensions? Evolver of Borg 18:05, Oct 21, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

For reviewing H.D. and Djuna Barnes and for the kind words about the former. Filiocht 09:08, Oct 22, 2004 (UTC)

Great work on the list of current and historical women's universities and colleges and the women's college article (and category, etc.). -- Rbellin 04:24, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Good Job

Smith College nice work on this, it's much more complete nowPedant 18:25, 2004 Nov 5 (UTC)

[edit] U.S. embargo against Cuba

You voted for U.S. embargo against Cuba, this week's Collaboration of the week. Please come and help it become a featured-standard article.

[edit] Countering systemic bias (redux)

I'm really interested in trying to bring Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias back to life, but I'm really not interested in getting back into wars with Xed over efforts at administering the project page, etc. As you may know, about 7 weeks ago I dropped out of any role in the project except editing articles, because I didn't feel like constantly fighting with his and he seemed intent on running the project page, etc., without (or even against) consensus.

Show me where I did this. Was it putting numbers and not bullet points in somewhere? - Xed 13:01, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Looking at the project page now, (1) I see specific suggestions to add templates to articles when I know these templates were discussed on the Village Pump and strongly rejected there by a broad consensus, (2) it's hard even to work out what pages to watchlist to keep track of the project, (3...) etc. I fixed one thing (how the main project page & the participants page link to one another) and I may do a little more this evening, but I'm afraid to wade in deeply because I just plain don't want a third round of conflict with Xed over how to make a project go.

1. If you're referring to the CSB CotW template, this wasn't "strongly rejected by a broad consensus". What was rejected, by a not particularly broad consensus, was putting a template on every article mentioned in the big open tasks list. - Xed 13:01, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I'd really like to help this project succeed. I was honestly hoping I could just get out of Xed's way and he would carry forward a vision, even if it didn't quite match my vision, but it looks to me like nothing of the sort has happened. Instead, it seems he's just pissing off other people the same way he pissed off Brian Corr and myself, and he's doing little to actually build a project. I know he's well-intentioned, so I don't get as angry at him as at (for example) POV warriors, but I'm finding this frustrating.

doing little to actually build a project: I've spent many, many hours helping to build it. For that, I've recieved nothing but abuse and paranoid accusations from you - Xed 13:01, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Do you have any suggestions? Even on whom I might confer with on this? -- Jmabel | Talk 03:38, Nov 25, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] GldF page

As a note, the diffs seem to show Ab2002 (talk • contribs) adding the copyvio material, not Grye (talk • contribs). MSJapan 04:33, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

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