User talk:BSAU

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[edit] Welcome!

Hello, BSAU, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or ask your question and then place {{helpme}} after the question on your talk page. Again, welcome!  --Ronz 03:22, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Some useful links to additional Wiki policies and guidelines

  • WP:SPAM - covers issues of promotion and advertising.
  • WP:EL - covers external links.
  • WP:OWN- describes how "If you create or edit an article, know that others will edit it, and allow them to do so."
  • Conflict of interest - describes guidelines for conflicts of interest.
  • WP:SOURCE - how to properly source content, and what content is allowed.
  • Notability - describes how "All topics should meet a minimum threshold of notability."

--Ronz 03:22, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Resolving disputes

In response to your comments on my talk page:

Please provide your full contact information so we can send you relevant information to end the repeated editing out of our entries.

Please see WP:DR, in addition to the policies and guidelines I've identified above. --Ronz 03:31, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Relevant information

Since in general all information in Wikipedia must be verifiable using published resources, it seems strange that you would say "so we can send you relevant information". You should be able to point to information already available, and so that other editors on Wikipedia can later see and (re)verify the information. Shenme 03:33, 27 March 2007 (UTC)


That was intended more for user Ronz who deleted our statement. We have email communications that show a sampling of the work we do to illustrate to the specific user Ronz that the statement is indeed factual. We dont have to convince all users - just those who delete our entries with the belief that they are not factual. BSAU 12:07, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Please read the guidelines and policies I've already identified for you. You've failed to identify what you're actually contending so far, and are making erroneous assumptions about my motives and actions. --Ronz 15:26, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] User 203.82.37.188

I removed the vandalism3 warning you placed on User_talk:203.82.37.188 because it seemed inappropriate. From my perspective the editor made good faith edits though they were not sourced and introduced points of view that might be inappropriate. --Ronz 15:34, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia. We invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia. Some of your recent edits, such as those you made to User talk:203.82.37.190, have been considered unhelpful or unconstructive and have been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you. --Ronz 23:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

The edits were not in good faith. Machines corresponding to IP 203.82.37.188 and 203.82.37.190 we confirmed to have been hacked based on our communication with the ISP and the Client of the ISP with whom we subsequently had direct contact - this is what I meant by you not being completely aware of the background. The communications with the ISP and their client are in e-mail. The person/s who hacked to use the IP edited the articles it malicious intent to damage the subject of this Article. BSAU 11:21, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

The problem here is that you did not bring up this information at the time, and have provided no proof still. The result is that your behavior appears to be in bad faith and you're attacking other editors. --Ronz 15:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
Your warnings to SpEEdstER12 and Galleje also appear inappropriate. I've removed the one to SpEEdstER12 and changed the one to Galleje. --Ronz 16:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ownership of articles

I don't know if I'm correct, but it seems that you may be attempting to cause another editor to stop editing an article, and that you seem to think that you own that article:

  • "Please provide your full contact information so we can send you relevant information to end the repeated editing out of our entries. BSAU 02:33, 27 March 2007 (UTC)" [1]

It may be that you are unaware of the following, found here:

Unintended consequences.
If you write in Wikipedia about yourself, your group, or your company, once the article is created, you have no right to control its content, and no right to delete it outside our normal channels; we will not delete it simply because you don't like it. Any editor may add material to it within the terms of our content policies. If there is anything publicly available on a topic that you would not want included in an article, it will probably find its way there eventually; more than one user has created an article only to find himself presented in a poor light long-term by other editors. Therefore, don't create promotional or other articles lightly, especially on subjects you care about. Either edit neutrally or don't edit at all. NPOV is absolute and non-negotiable.

Be careful about any possible conflict of interest, and keep in mind that all editors have a right to edit the article. Now that the article has been created, its fate is out of your hands. Good luck with your editing here. -- Fyslee (collaborate) 19:51, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Noted. See communication above about 203.82.37.188 and 203.82.37.190 - documented cases of parties using hacking techniques to vandalize. We want to ensure that the article is not vandalized by those with ill intent. BSAU 11:26, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] BPO Services Association Unlimited (BSA/U)

I have added a "{{prod}}" template to the article BPO Services Association Unlimited (BSA/U), suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but I don't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and I've explained why in the deletion notice (see also "What Wikipedia is not" and Wikipedia's deletion policy). You may contest the proposed deletion by removing the {{dated prod}} notice, but please explain why you disagree with the proposed deletion in your edit summary or on its talk page. Also, please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Even though removing the deletion notice will prevent deletion through the proposed deletion process, the article may still be deleted if it matches any of the speedy deletion criteria or it can be sent to Articles for Deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. - Ronz 23:59, 28 March 2007

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