Talk:Bruce Almighty

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Contents 1 Buffalo 2 555 Phone Fiasco 3 Removal 4 No logic? 5 Oh, God! Resemblance? 6 "Telephone numbers" section

[edit] Buffalo

Something should be mentioned about how people in Buffalo were angry over the fact that it did not depict Buffalo accuratly and was not filmed in Buffalo.

• If they ever did depict Buffalo accurately, the people there would really be angry. Wahkeenah 02:10, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] 555 Phone Fiasco

Michigan? I haven't seen the movie (I detest Jim Carrey), but the news articles that discussed the 555 phone fiasco said that the producers had said that they used the phone number they used because the exchange doesn't exist in Buffalo, New York, where the movie takes place. -- Zoe

You're correct. Hmm ... I wonder how I came up with Michigan? Anyway, fixed. --Eloquence

On a similar note, the last paragraph claims that the movie is controversial because of the phone number thing. Surely in a movie where God is a middle-aged black man who gives his powers to a mortal human, ignoring all theological questions these ideas raise, surely with all this -- isn't there something more controversial than the phone number being a real number? Tuf-Kat

I haven't read about any controversy from religious watchdogs. -- Zoe

Is it really a moonshine rendezvous or actually a moonlight rendezvous?

[edit] Removal

Hi. I removed a part of the article that seemed rather... wrong. If you disagree with this, you're welcome to discuss the changes here.

"The universe in Bruce Almighty seems to be entirely centered around planet Earth, as is vividly illustrated by a scene where Bruce adds a few stars to the sky and removes some others -- not suns, but merely decorations for his moonlight rendezvous."

The problem is that given Bruce's calibre for the most of the movie, the setting is effectively not Earth-centric or heliocentric but Bruce-centric. He is completely within his rights to remove indascendent spheres of nuclear fire in sizes that boggle the imagination, and add some new ones. The other adjustments in the scene, such as rubbing out the cloud cover, further drive the point home. It's about what Bruce can do, not how the universe revolves around Earth.

The existence of God is taken for granted in the entire movie, even before God contacts the protagonist and removes all doubt.

All of two people have their beliefs shown with any depth. Both believe in God and so both think that He exists. In addition, Bruce meets God very soon after the movie starts, and Grace has very few lines about Him. So... neither of them having a crisis of faith during this time is somehow odd?

Okay, so there are a lot of praying people as well . Not exactly a suitable sample of the entire population, though.

Supernatural events, on the other hand, appear to leave little impression on the population of Bruce's world.

What? There are very few things in the film that would convince onlookers that they're witnessing definite supernatural phenomena. Rule one of the whole endeavour is that Bruce has to maintain his cover. The few events that do qualify are met with considerable surprise, alarm and disbelief (the butt-monkey's cute, isn't it?) which certainly seems accurate enough. -- Kizor 15:17, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] No logic?

I was just thinking it seems weird, this whole thing with God not being able to mess with free will seems weird, I mean shouldn't he be able to circumvent this?

And another thing, it is stated that he only controls bufallo yet he manipulated the moon, and that is technically not a part of Bufallo.

XSpaceyx 22:20, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, it only ever says the prayers he hears are from Buffalo. But as having all of God's powers, he should have control over the Moon.

Drake Clawfang, February 18, 2006.

Was it not mentioned in the movie that he infact did not have omnipotence nor omniscience though? Though, I may be wrong

XSpaceyx 08:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Well I'm not sure about that, but I do remember God saying outright: "You have all of my powers".

[User:Drake Clawfang|Drake Clawfang]], February 20, 2006.

Yeah I understand that, but really studying the movie he does not appear to have omniscience in any part of it, and the fact that he can't override the free mind, would really interfere with the general theory around omnipotence

XSpaceyx 16:26, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

The "don't mess with free will" was a rule given to Bruce by God, to stop him from causing any more damage.... God does have the ability to remove free will, but doesn't. Hence Bruce isn't omniscient in that regard or on the same level as God is (in real life).

Yoda921 02:45, 18 February 2007 (UTC)Yoda

[edit] Oh, God! Resemblance?

God in the form of a human being giving a regular person powers seems very similar to the 1977 movie starring George Burns (except for the fact that he never gives the main character, John Denver). The plot is very different, for another reason, as God is not spreading any kind of message, as it did in Oh, God!, but all the same it shows God in human form in Bruce Almighty. So is there any kind of influence Oh, God! had with Bruce Almighty?

Leopard Gecko 20:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)Leopard Gecko God in the form of a human being giving a regular person powers seems very similar to the 1977 movie starring George Burns (except for the fact that he never gives the main character, John Denver). The plot is very different, for another reason, as God is not spreading any kind of message, as it did in Oh, God!, but all the same it shows God in human form in Bruce Almighty. So is there any kind of influence Oh, God! had with Bruce Almighty?

[edit] "Telephone numbers" section

In my memory, there was telephone number controversy because, in the original version, real phone number used. So the crew changed into fictional number. However, this article explains incorrectly--59.5.188.72 06:11, 13 December 2006 (UTC)