Talk:Broccoli

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I agree that we desperately need a section on health benefits and nutrition of broccoli!


Desperately need a section on health benefits of broccoli and especially broccoli sprouts. Just searching wikipedia for broccoli pulls up a few good points

What about include a photo from the public domain ???. Mac


So what, if anything, is to be made of the oft-repeated claim that broccoli as we know it was a cross between cauliflower and peas, and that this cross-breeding was done by an ancestors of Albert Broccoli, producer of most of the James Bond movies? (Who, BTW, deserves an article.) -- Jmabel 07:03, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

That is the dumbest question I’ve ever heard. It was also the exact same question I was going to ask. So I guess I wont throw stones! Someone please answer. Baddog 02/11/06 08:56 CST

The alleged link to the family of Albert Broccoli is absolute bunk. The history of broccoli is certainly not clear, but it goes much farther back than Albert's family. Similarly, using the word 'broccoli' to point to its Italian origins is highly questionable. The word is probably not from Italian at all, but may be of Dutch origin instead (from Boorenkole meaning farmer's cabbage). The plant mentioned by Apicius may or may not be broccoli.

I have a more detailed set of notes on the subject on my website [MedievalCookery.com]. -- Doc 63.250.143.9 15:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

--- is it necessary to state that George H.W. Bush was in the first generation of american children to have broccoli? that seems fairly meaningless and random.


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[edit] Nutritional Data

Am I the only one that noticed that the serving sizes are entirely different (something many readers may not notice), thus making it non-trivial to compare the nutritional data? The site those data came from lets you standardize to 100g; someone needs to do it. (I haven't yet figured out how to upload pix.)

I have heard that it was a cross between califlower and rabe not peas and here is a link to a website about Albert "Cubby" Broccoli that makes that claim. http://www.cubbybroccoli.com/biography.html

[edit] Preparation and Nutrition

Broccoli normally tastes awful, but it tastes great if deep fried. So there must be some drawback to this method - how does this affect the nutritional value? It would be nice to have nutritional data according to the preparation (raw, cooked, steamed, ..., deep-fried) --138.251.194.49 15:16, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

For a start, I think broccoli is delicious in whatever form. As for the nutritional values, raw will be best, steamed less so, boiled less so again. If it's deep fried, particularly in batter as in pakora (delicious!) it's likely to retain nutrients better than steaming, but will also be vastly higher in fat. 86.0.203.120 01:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)



[edit] broccoli is delicious!

Personaly, i think broccoli is very delicious either raw & dipped in ranch dressing, or steamed with butter and salt on it... I highly reccomend trying it...(if you don't like it, i think you are CRAzY!!!!) HAHAHA! love ya'll!


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[edit] Related to wild mustard or not???

This page needs to be cleaned up: is Broccoli related to wild mustard or not? Whatever the answer is, please provide a citation to an authoritative source, as this page presently makes assertions both ways without any citation to authority.

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[edit] North America-centric

Shouldn't there be more on the consumption of broccoli in other cultures, particularly China?--Anchoress 07:50, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anybody concernced that this is not actually broccoli but calabrese.

Broccoli is purple and is sometimes called purple sprouting broccoli, whereas calabrese is what you get in supermarkets described (erroneously) as broccoli!

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"broccoli" is what it's known by colloquially, so that's what the page name is. Technically speaking calling it "broccoli" isn't "erroneous" in any real sense, since language-wise, that's what it refers to. Nobody thinks of purple plants when they think of broccoli; just check any cartoon rendition of it, ranging from that MTV show to the Powerpuff Girls episode where they fought mutant broccoli stalks (no, I'm not kidding. That was a real episode. My hand to God.) - all of them are green, green, green in modern Western culture. So, the name of the page is NOT wrong, and please don't change it or anything like that. You may, however, want to note that the plant used to be referred to (or "is less frequently, but more properly referred to") as calabrese... so long as you can cite sources for it.
It's possible that the two different origins that were on the page previously are due to the confusion of calabrese and purple broccoli's origins, I suppose. 63.21.36.163 05:36, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seeds and Pods

Broccoli plants flower and produce seeds in a very interesting way. I would like to see this process explained as well as a picture of the seeding plant. Also, I would like to know if broccoli seed pods are edible/healthy. --Karuna8 03:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Even more basic, does anybody have a close up picture of a full broccoli plant, or a cutaway drawing of one in the ground? Showing just spears doesn't do justice to such a magnificent plant. Kborer 01:19, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Pesticide level

What is the white powdery substance that is on broccoli? It's on grapes too. Is this pesticide? Is broccoli usually higher or lower in pesticide residues? I remember seeing a guide where fruit and vegetables were ranked for lowest and highest residual pesticides. Would Wikipedia soon be adding this to fruit and vegetable entries? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Happathyapathy (talkcontribs) 05:51, 6 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Romanesco

Isn't Romanesco actually a type of broccoli, rather than cauliflower? hotdiggitydogs 03:19, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] infobox error, fiber

The fiber content can't be right: 6.4 grams fiber in 5 grams carbohydrate isn't possible. It is more like 3 grams fiber in five grams carb. 67.176.161.242 03:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)