Talk:Broadsheet

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(We should probably mention something about the endless price/circulation wars. These have got quite vicious (particularly between the Times and the Telegraph) in recent years, with lots of sneaky tricks (eg putting free papers on trains) being employed to up circulation figures.)

(And of course, the rest of the world has newspapers too...)

Can someone point out which of the 4 major newspapers are right wing or left wing?


This article is way too UK-centric. You would think from this article that there were only six broadsheets in the entire world. Descriptions of the UK newspaper industry should probably be moved to a separate article. (In my collection, I believe I can come closer to 300, and that's just in the US.) 18.24.0.120 02:35, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)

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[edit] Who's Who

Maybe the aricle is "way" too U.K-centric, but no more so than most articles we Americans write about things are U.S.-centric.

I'll leave it to others to write the article on U.S. broadsheets -- somebody out there in the Wiki-verse must be far more knowledgable about it than myself. But I think that I can say which U.K. papers are which politically. The Times and the Telegraph are the right-wing entries in question, the Guardian and the Independent are the left-wing ones, unless things have changed very drastically very recently.
Rlquall 15:40, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)


I always thought The Times was fairly balanced, perhaps a tiny bit right-wing, but of all the newspapers the most unpredictable in its politics. --Taras 02:23, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)

The Times is assuredly not right-wing in the sense that the Washington Times is, and if I gave anyone that incorrect impression I certainly apologize.

Rlquall 17:48, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

[edit] How big?

Could someone add the physical dimensions of the paper? Rmhermen 05:31, Sep 17, 2004 (UTC)

I was about to say "yes, I wonder where I could find that out" when I realised I have Saturday's Guardian downstairs. So I can definitively say that it measures 14¾ by 23½ inches (or 29½ by 23½ if you want the size of an open spread, which I suppose is more sensible). Assuming the "tabloid" sections inside, and my local free paper, are genuinely the same size as tabloids (which makes sense in terms of standardised equipment), they're exactly half: 11¾ by 14¾ (23½ by 14¾ opened out). I think I'll add that to both articles. - IMSoP 22:33, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Broadsheet in content or size?

We have to consider with this article whether:

- we see broadsheets as all serious newspapers - or we see broadsheets as newspapers with a broadsheet size.

The Independent on Sunday will soon be a tabloid, so it won't be possible to have 'The Independent on Sunday' (The Independent is now a compact).

Perhaps there should be a separate section listing compacts on this page?

I work in the Press Cutting industry, ex-broadsheets are now called "Quality". So you have Tabloid (Sun, Mirror), Mid-Range (Daily Mail), Quality (The Guardian, The Times) and Broadsheet. I'll try to find something on the NLAs page, and maybe put a note in Connotations. ~ Mlk 14:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC) ~

[edit] Supplements

G2 is now half-Berliner; Times 2 is a tabloid supplement to a compact.

I had a go at re-editing the section about the supplements, but I'm still not happy with it. I'm not sure how many UK tabloid supplements there really are to broadsheets; the only broadsheets left will be the Telegraph and the Sunday Times once the Observer follows the Guardian to Berliner and the Sindie follows the Indie to compact.

Well, plus the Herald and the Yorkshire Post (are there any other regional broadsheets?).

Of those, the Telegraph doesn't carry tabloid supplements as far as I know, but the Herald does. The Sunday Times has so many sections, some in tabloid, some in broadsheet, some in A4 and some in even smaller sizes that the G2-style "features section" isn't really an appropriate model.

Perhaps we should discuss G2/T2 as something that newspapers used to do, rather than do?

--Po8crg 11:53, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] USA Today?

From the article:

a leading English language daily newspaper from India, followed closely by USA Today and The New York Times from the United States,

USA Today is not in the broadsheet format, is it? It seems tiny compared to the New York Times. AxelBoldt 16:40, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

"The world's most widely circulated English language daily broadsheet is The Times of India, a leading English language daily newspaper from India, followed closely by The New York Times from the United States, according to the Audit Bureau of Circulations." how accurate is that description? looking at the New York Times page it says it falls behind both USA Today and the Wall Street Journal in circulation. by the way I think USA Today is a broadsheet, they just use fewer columns? (not sure about this) Phatalbert 02:01, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Subjective definitions?

"Some tabloid papers (particularly the Daily Mail and Daily Express) often use phrases such as "broadsheet quality in a tabloid format" to distinguish themselves from the "tabloid" reputation."

It's worth noting here that the Mail and Express were originally published in broadsheet format (as were the Times, Guardian, and Independent), only to change to a smaller format at a later date. Yet the Mail and Express are now regarded as "tabloid", whereas the others are still considered "broadsheet". What's the difference? 217.155.20.163 23:02, 22 October 2006 (UTC)