Talk:Bridge and tunnel

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[edit] Outer Boroughs as B&T?

My personal experience clashes with the inclusion of some other New York City boroughs (particularly Brooklyn) being included as B&T. Although it certainly is true that one must use a bridge or tunnel to enter Manhattan from Brooklyn or Queens, I've found that the term was more often used to describe people coming from New Jersey, Connecticut and (often especially) Long Island. I know, of course that Brooklyn and Queens are geographically located on Long Island, but they are also contained within the city limits and connected via the subway system. That said, I don't have any evidence to back up any of this, just thought I'd weigh in. Cuffeparade 14:20, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I was just thinking the same thing, especially now that celebrities are moving to Brooklyn and parts of it are very chic. Two other factors 1) Queens and Brooklyn are not "undiverse" but are more diverse than Manhattan 2) They are not culturally dissimilar; there is no style of dress unique to Brooklyn and no accent associated with Queens. As compared to Long Island and Jersey, B&Q folks can blend in quite nicely. - Lciaccio 20:17, 20 February 2007 (UTC) (from Long Island, which thoroughly deserves the label)

[edit] B&T phenomenon exists In Canada and probably in major world cities aswell

Vancouver Canada's west end also uses the term Bridge and Tunneler. However, In Toronto, Canada, we use the term "905 crowd" which is the Toronto equivalent of Bridge and tunnel crowd. The term originated for the fact that downtown Toronto uses the 416 area code while the suburbs use 905. Also I am sure this phenomenon exists in major cities around the world. If anyone in other cities knows of similar sociological phenomena please add it here

Here are some quotes I have gathered on the web associated with Bridge and Tunnel:

"Bridge and tunnelers dressed in their flannel Friday best bobbed their heads; their girlfriends swayed to bassist Geoff Stansfield's throbbing groove. " http://www.blacklabworld.com/blw/pages/08_history.html

"Hipsters and fashionista's versus the masses of over scrubbed bridge and tunnelers who have made the meat packing district a hell away from home." http://abstractdynamics.org/2004/09/index.html

"“Among Manhattan's tastemakers, there is no greater insult than saying a place is "bridge and tunnel" - invaded by the stereotypically big-haired, short-skirted, wifebeater-wearing crowd from points Jersey and Long Island. " http://www.clubplanet.com/news/archive/belittled_bt_loved_by_nightlife.asp --Heckubiss 16:39, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

• I haven't heard of such a thing around Boston, but I would fall into that category; there is a weak distinction between 617 (Boston and immediately surrounding suburbs) and 781 (inner suburbs), but for the most part you don't hear people complaining about it. It does exist on Cape Cod, though in that case you mostly hear the terms "Over the Bridge", "damn tourists" and (for people like me who live here but are latecomers to the area) "washashores". Haikupoet 17:15, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Connecticut

I removed a parenthetical statement from Connecticut in the list of surrounding areas that qualify as B&T. It said that the connotation of B&T could not refer to the affluent residents of Connecticut. I'm not sure what was meant by this, and there might as well be similar lines for the affluent residents of New Jersey and Long Island. The point of B&T is that they are people from outside of the city who travel into the city, regardless of their socioeconomic status. Cuffeparade 06:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)