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[edit] Snake Guitar

Does anyone know what this is? Eno is credited with playing one on Taking Tiger Mountain and the wikipedia page for "snake guitar" redirects to this page. I am not sure how I feel about there being a wiki page for something that we don't know what it is. My feeling is that the snake guitar page should be deleted or perhaps the redirect should be changed to point to Taking Tiger Mountain? Wikikob 10:01, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

  • Apparently its some sort of Eno custom guitar treatment.[1] A redirect to Tiger Mountain would be more appropriate than a redirect here. I went ahead and did that, though it'd be cool if we could find more info on Eno's "treatments" to instruments. Wickethewok 10:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Added info for Music for Films

I just added info for Music for Films feel free to update it, it was bothering me that when I went from the album before or after it back and forth that the album info wasn't entered. JohnRussell 05:14, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Passengers

Should Eno's work with Passengers be added to this page? I could not find it mentioned anywhere on the page, but as it was an important album he released with U2, I feel it should be included also. Reekie 21:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Playlist on Rhapsody

I added a Playlist to all of Brian Eno's stuff on Rhapsody, it links to my website only because wikipedia doesn't allow rpl upload's.. I'm wondering if there is a better way to do this because people may download it thinking its a virus or something.. I'm going to work out a way to do this better I think.. But that RPL file is a Rhapsody Playlist.. I've been using Rhapsody (version 2.1 ) since September of last year and love it.. They convert about 3000 albums a month, and I scour the collection for tasty stuff and put rhapsody playlists to the stuff on my site.. So far I have all top 100 hits from every year 1976 through 1986.. But it looks like Billboard is finally starting to shut down all the sites with copies of their picks (stupid).. Anyhow, I'm starting to use a service in england to get more precise, like month by month references, like I have the top ~400 hits for the UK in 1990, and making playlists with that.. I'm trying to push Real to associating dates and times to the content so people can say reproduce the music for a particular time of the day on a certain year.. Anyhow, having playlists for each musician is a related dream, I've had.. Anyhow.. Take it or leave it, I don't care.. I'll leave it up for each community to decide.. --Rofthorax 07:13, 15 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "founding member" of Roxy Music?

I'm not sure Eno was a "founding member" of Roxy Music. I thought that he was a friend of Andy Mackay, who asked him to join as they had a synthesiser which no-one knew how to use? Can anyone confirm this? andy-106 20 May 2005

Well you are more-or-less correct, however Eno was only joining Ferry & MacKay at this point (and possibly the original bass player?) - Manzanera & Thompson were recruited much later. --feline1 15:28, 20 May 2005 (UTC)

Roxy was the brainchild of Ferry, who recruited his bassist friend Graham Simpson, then placed an ad that drew MacKay, who in turn pulled in Eno. Given that Eno was part of the first incarnation of Roxy Music--including their first gigs and demo recordings-- I think it is fair to call him a "founding member." BTfromLA 16:34, 22 May 2005 (UTC)

That's makes him part of the original line-up but doesn't make him a founder of Roxy Music. --Andy-106 09:19, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I recently quoted the "cofounder" term from the article and was promptly told that Ferry and MacKay co-founded Roxy, which may also not be correct according to BTfromLA. Anyway, if Eno was later dismissed by Ferry, these facts collectively suggest Andy-106's position is correct: Eno was an original line-up member, but not a cofounder. It's been a year since this issue was posted -- how about a regular here making that change from "cofounder" to "original line-up" or similar edit, and see if there's any significant rv objection? Milo 20:35, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

I haven't been much of a regular, but I nevertheless made a few changes in response to your note. I just made him a "member" of the early Roxy--I think wrangling over the who-did-what-when in that band can be reserved for the Roxy Music article. Make sense? BTfromLA 00:34, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks BTfromLA, you've nicely finessed the contentions. And sure, why not let Roxy Music handle them. The rest of the section reads a lot better too -- I now get clearly get what Eno was doing at the mixing desk. I suggest putting back the bit at the end where Eno thinks about his laundry on stage. It's harmless and a great line to quote to friends. Milo 06:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

Actually, the laundry bit isn't from Roxy Music - that's a quote about when he decided to give up playing solo gigs (with "the Winkies"). --feline1 12:07, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pronunciation of "Eno"?

Just curious -- Eno: /i:noU/, /EnoU/, or something else?

I don't know that I've ever heard him pronounce it, but I have only heard it pronounced "EE no." I'm sure I've heard Bowie or another colleague say it that way at one time or another. -- Wapcaplet 03:51, 2 Dec 2003 (UTC)
Pronounced "ee-no" also in Mike Keneally's Eno and the Actor. I presume it's the same name at least :)

[edit] the main page

There's something wrong on the Discography section. There's no mention that Eno was a founder member of Roxy Music and played on the first two records. It would be nice to correct the page.

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[edit] Clean up tag

I found this page very hard to read. Unsectioned text should not go on for longer than a page. I would fix it up, but I don't know much about Brian Eno.

[edit] Reinstated deletions

I see the picture and all categories were removed by 83.132.223.34 on 01:00, 20 Apr 2005. I've reinstated everything and added a few extra categories. --Bruce1ee 12:33, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Eno on Wikipedia

In an interview to Le Monde (August 16, 2005), Brian Eno lauded Wikipedia (announced in bold title) and said that he had edited the article about himself. David.Monniaux 19:16, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

In a lecture opening the 2006 Free Thinking festival (November 3, 2006) "I looked at the entry on me the other day. It's more up to date on me than I am." -farlane, 12:55 19 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categories "Gay musicians" and "Roman Catholics" added ...

Rms125a@hotmail.com added those categories (declaring that a minor change?). Can that information be verified? --BNutzer 07:08, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm in favor of reverting it until such evidence can be provided. -- Krash (Talk) 14:48, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
  • The name Brian Peter George St. John le Baptiste de la Salle Eno is so Catholic it might be wearing a biretta! BTLizard 11:42, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Laurie Anderson's Bright Red

Eno produced that record, references:

[edit] Sourced Miles Davis influence reverted: wiki-stalking?

1) I had inserted in the Brian Eno article a paragraph where I noted the influence Miles Davis had on Eno, backed with an Eno quote and sourced with an url to his liner notes:

In 1981, back from Ghana and before On Land, he discovers Miles Davis' 1974 ambient jazz dirge "He Loved Him Madly": "Teo Macero's revolutionary production on that piece seemed to me to have the "spacious" quality I was after, and like "Amarcord", it too became a touchstone to which I returned frequently." [2]

2) In a second edit, I had also updated one of the external links, the one about the site I had just visited for sourcing the Eno quote about Miles Davis (they host the liner notes). The original uninformative link was:

  • EnoWeb – unofficial fan site

Which I had edited to an hypertext summary of the main content/resources:

External links are supposed to be described and explain what content or resources can be found, why the link is useful, even at length if required, as seen on WP:1SP#External_links_.28also_called_Further_reading.29.

3) Both have then been reverted by User:Krash, and w/o any justification (which is required when reverting something that's not patent vandalism): (diff)

4) Disclosure: I currently have an edit conflict with User:Krash and User:Feline1 on Fripp & Eno's No Pussyfooting. (They contend that an article about an album that's two side-long 20-min tracks would be "messed up" and "spoiled" by my adding a one-liner "See also" link to the List of songs over fifteen minutes in length, which lists the album's tracks.)

In this context, Krash's unjustified reversion to the Eno article sure looks like petty abuse, wiki-stalking, and vandalism. And not providing a rational for reverting my edit, which clearly wasn't vandalism, sure looks like plausible denial for it.

-- 62.147.113.180 18:44, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

1) This is a misunderstanding. When looking at this edit, it initially appeared to me that you deleted a chunk of text. Sorry to say, anonymous editors don't get the respect they so often deserve around here.
2) You're linkfarming. From Wikipedia:Spam: "Don't gratuitously set off our spam radar. There are certain stylistic behaviors that will say "spam!" loud and clear to anyone who's watching: Adding many links to (or mentions of) the same site or product." Same site. Same site. Same site.
3) Combining my (incorrect) assumptions from #1 with my dislike for linkspam/linkfarming of #2, I feel that I was more than justified to revert. I guess this has been a terrible burden on you. I'd apologize if you weren't acting like such a dick now.
4) Don't confuse me with another editor. Don't make false accusations. Don't jump to conclusions. Don't bring moot irrelevant arguments from somewhere else into this. Your IP is never the same and it wasn't until you threw your little tantrum up there that I had any inclination to suspect that you're related to the editor of that other article or the anonymous authoritarian who showed up on my talk page. -- Krash (Talk) 19:46, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
1) & 2) are valid concerns, granted … 3) but the edit summaries of 62.147.* (who should really consider creating an account by the way) definitely were descriptive enough to justify a second look. A certain disgruntlement over a completely unexplained revert is understandable. And if this is a tantrum, then the dick is name-calling. Don't. (Curious though, under which reversion policy does "You lost your case when you started ranting like a lunatic. Thanks for playing." fall?) 4) Fair enough. Femto 21:29, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Long gap in "Solo work"

The section "Solo work" has no information on anything Eno recorded or performed between 1980 and 2004, with the exception of a brief mention of Nerve Net (1992). I realize Eno was focusing more on producing during this period, but I know he's done some of his own work during this time. An almost 25-year period surely deserves to be fleshed out more than this. Peter G Werner 11:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Descent (An Ending)

Surely one of his most prominent tracks without a mention on Wikipedia?

It was the main theme music for 28 days later and featured as the warm up for Above and Beyond's Radio One Essential Mix as an extended re-edit in 2005.

[edit] Missing discography references

Was just wondering if there was a reason why some albums are not referenced in Eno's discography. What comes to mind are some of his "best of"s, such as 1986's "Desert Island Selection" or his two box set collections. There are also other albums that feature his work, typically along with other Edition EG artists, and his work on individual soundtracks (like the piece he composed for the Dune soundtrack for example). Any objection to adding these to the listing, maybe under different sub-categories (i.e. "Best of", "Compilations", "Soundtracks", etc)? Captmondo 21:33, 25 May 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Eno Cover record link

Added a link called "Eno cover record that Eno likes." http://www.saucefaucet.com/tiger.html

It was removed as vandalism by John Baez. I put it back.

I feel it's a legit link, it's a record I had nothing to do with, a complete reinterpretation of "Taking Tiger Mountain." Eno has heard the record, loves it, and there's a recording of a phone message from Eno on the page and on the record of Eno saying how much he loves it.

Note: I forgot to log in when I first posted it. Is that part of why it was deleted? Sorry.

--ElizaBarrington, 30 May, 2006

Am being a bit nit-picky maybe, but shouldn't a link for this go on Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy) rather than on the main Eno page? There are a lot of cover albums out there (even a few where an entire album has been covered) so wouldn't it be more appropropriate to link it from that album's page instead of the artist's?
As an aside, I am likely to be a future consumer of said cover album. ;-) Captmondo 14:36, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
Captmondo speaks wisdom. The cover-album spam link should leave this page, and go to the Album's own page.--feline1 14:50, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Eno's video and audio installations

Just a little note: this article doesn't seem to be well balanced, becouse there is not enough coverage on the 1990s.

I am seeking any information regarding...:

Brian Eno's Video and Audio Installations

I visited one of those in 1987 in Italy; I can't forget that experience because it helped me to understand the essence of ambient music, and its difference with similar genres or styles, such as space music, minimalist music, "new age" and "soundscap-ed" or "ambienced" house and techno. Brian W 03:19, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jean-Baptiste de la Salle

I don't know Eno very well, but his lengthy name I think should have some citation, to accompany the brief explanation in the education and early career section. I didn't want to put the tag [citation needed] on the page, since I don't doubt the veracity, but if the editor who added this could cite, it would help the article substantiate that Eno in fact has 11 separate words in his name. Castellanet 02:11, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photos

I've got two GFDL photos of Eno that I took recently. One (A) is a good angle, but blurry (the lights had been turned off). The second (B) is much clearer, but the angle is not as good. Which one should we use? --Bungopolis 21:45, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

Choice A
Choice A
Choice B
Choice B


[edit] School Days

I went to St Joseph's College in Ipswich and I remember my chemistry teacher telling us stories about "Young Ferry". However, he never mentioned Eno. Now I read in the article that he also attended the College. Did they meet there? Does anybody know? Is it worth including this info in the article if they did?

Thanks

--tonis1 15:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dune

What about his contributions to Dune (David Lynch, 1984). He composed the score, even though it was recorded by Toto.

[edit] Empty Landscapes?

  • Does anyone have any info on this Eno album? I haven't been able to find anything about it. Wickethewok 21:04, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
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