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Contents 1 ! 2 Missing information 3 Helllllpppppppp 4 Ref: hangon 5 Amendments

[edit] !

Guys; this is what I put together as a stub but was removed from the main page. Some information is missing (where I have put "?") and I am trying to find these information so fill in the gap if you know the answer please. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brenda_Shaffer/Temp

Don't use this one for now: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Brenda_Shaffer&oldid=104606815 Kiumars

Try not to copy large chunks of text from some published article, instead try to make a compilation of various sources. It will not be copyright violation then. Grandmaster 06:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Grandmaster; do you see big chunks of text in the article? By the way quoting a few lines from an article falls under fair use. Kiumars

I did not really check, just was trying to help you to make article free of copyright problems. Grandmaster 08:04, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Hi, the whole first paragraph was copied/pasted from the mfa.az source. This is copyright violation. - Francis Tyers · 08:47, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Francis Tyers see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brenda_Shaffer/Temp; I used quotation marks and should be ok now. Kiumars

Francis Tyers by the way do you see any copyriht sign on the website of The ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Republic of Azerbaijan? I am going to ask them anyway. Kiumars

[edit] Missing information

Guys, now I need to know when and where she was born? What is her religion (I assume she is Jewish), I assume she is Israeli because she was graduated from Tel Aviv University and works for IDF but we need concrete evidences. Also any academic reviews on her books and works will be appreciated. Kiumars

Yes, I think I can get you some academic reviews. From what I understand, she worked for the Israeli government and is very anti Iranian, claiming that Iran is a fictitious state and other such ridiculous things.Azerbaijani 20:01, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Helllllpppppppp

Francis_Tyers has put a copyright tag on Brenda Shaffer article and does not reply to my posts and questions! How can we solve this problem? Kiumars

Sorry no one's available to help right now. You may want to try WP:RFC. Good luck. Xiner (talk, email) 02:16, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

Please do not remove the helpme tag until the issue is resolved! Kiumars

The helpme tag is for your own talk page, not article pages or talk pages. The copyvio notice tells you the appropriate course of action but a few notes based on the above

• Putting quotes around large chunks of text does not resolve a copyvio problem
• Copyright is automatic and implicit, the lack of a copyright notice on a site does not mean it is not copyrighted.

---pgk 12:19, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ref: hangon

I changed the contested copyright part and put links to sources instead! Guys what you are all missing is that her biographies in the three sources I have provided are identical word for word (did they violate the coprright?). I hope putting URLs is not a copyright violation here, is it? Now let’s move on, we have far more interesting issues to look at soon! The next stage will be to contest her academic merits! I love this.

See the latest changes at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brenda_Shaffer/TempKiumars

Ok, guys, I have rewritten it, it should be ok now please check the article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Brenda_Shaffer/Temp

Please do not place the {{helpme}} on any page other than your own talk page. You can refer to the article from there. --pgk 18:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Amendments

Azerbaijani, please do not remove items without discussing first; I see this as vandalism. Kiumars

Ali; Religion plays a major role in our lives, it is on our birth & death certificates and we are judged and even buried according to our religions; and we all have certain loyalty to our religious beliefs. So it does matter. Kiumars