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[edit] Deletion debates
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This article was nominated for deletion on September 4, 2006. The result of the discussion was keep. |
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This article was nominated for deletion on December 13, 2005. The result of the discussion was keep. |
[edit] Race riots
The claim that this gang "sparked" the race riots was quite rightly removed... however something still needs to be said about their role in the whole affair, with reference to media reports and other sources... anyone game?--Russell E 06:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
- They appeared on the SBS 9:30 news tonight embracing members of the Comancheros (a bikie group with lots of members with a Lebanese background) saying that they had nothing to do with it and describing all those involved as gutless. ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 11:23, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Surfer gang
Can someone from Australia perhaps write a little article about the history and concept of a surfer gang itself. It is an interesting novelty for the rest of the world. Tfine80 03:17, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Bah Boys
This article was recently created. I was just wondering if anyone here knows anything about the "Bah Boys". Are they real? Or did the user who created the article confuse the "Bra Boys" for the "Bah Boys"? Thanks - Akamad 06:29, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
- Never mind, it seems the article has been deleted. - Akamad 10:35, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Nomination for deletion
This article was nominated for deletion. It was speedy kept as it was an anonymous nomination with no reason given. Further, there were no delete votes and the previous vote was strongly in favour. Capitalistroadster 01:18, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Keep It... And link to Surf Culture.
The Bra Boys dont care for American movies or gang culture.
They are an outstanding example of modern Australian Surf Culture.
This page should link to the Surf Culture page, which should in turn reference this page.
[edit] Just removed...
I just removed the following:
- Traditionally those in the group shared a similar demographic: low socioeconomic class, and a high unemployment rate.
- Domestic violence, drug, and alcohol abuse are still commonplace today. With proximity to the coast and the glamour of the beach lifestyle, surfing and the companionship of other youth in similar situations has thus been a natural escape. However, the Bra Boys still to this day have a longstanding reputation for asserting weak standover tactics against many individuals and small groups. This intimidating behaviour (seen amongst most gangs) has not only been reported at Maroubra Beach but also at many other surfing spots up and down Australia's east coast. It is this aspect of the Bra Boys which has earned them great disfavour amongst the majority of Australia's surfing population.
It was unsourced and for assertions so extreme one is needed at least. Feel free to add it back if you have reputable references. DarkSideOfTheSpoon 17:05, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
Interesting that it was added in the first place!
Although the first paragraph is true, the rest is mixed and questionable. Current and former members state in various media interviews that they formed partially as a reaction to the drug problem in their neighbourhood and the influx of external gangs. Hard drugs are "officially" frowned upon, although alcohol and soft drug (primarily marijuana) use is tolerated. The "standover tactics" listed here are, IMO, questionable too. Yes, they are very localised surfers - you need to show respect to them if you want to share their waves. Yes - they have kicked in the doors of known drug dealers, given them a beating and flushed their drugs down the toilet. But their overall impact in the Maroubra community seems to be very positive and the Australian surfing community in general does seem to admire them.
I highly recommend anyone interested reads "Bruvvas From The Gutter" by Matt Griggs, first published in Tracks Magazine 2003 and reprinted in "Waves: great Stories From The Surf" (ISBN 0732283302, Chapter 8, page 81). Dougirwin13 01:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] The Name
The Bra Boys are named after the suburb Maroubra and not the Board Riders Association. This was confirmed by Koby and Sunny on Triple J's breakfast show 'Myf, Jay & the Doctor' on the 7th March 2007. I think some people may read into things a bit too far sometimes. Seperx 20:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
