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Do you guys think Marianne (1996 song) should be merged here? I'm not sure how much can be said about that song besides what's right there on that page. It's not a single, it's not notorious for any reason, etc. A few lines in here should do. Right? I'm going to go ahead and try to incorporate the pertinent info here. --Jacqui ^{★ 21:56, 27 October 2005 (UTC)}

Hey friends, Someone emailed me with the impression that this page was my baby. :) Whether it is or not (and it's not), I am taking my exams right now and haven't the time for fix these errors either, let alone verify the Marianna stuff (though I am pretty sure that it's accurate from the Tori lore I have heard previously). But I will print the email in its entirety (with one exception) for the next person who comes along. Jacqui^★ 14:14, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

From: Richard Handal <handal@r2d2.reverse.net> To: [Jacqui M] Date: Monday - May 8, 2006 4:34 AM Subject: A couple Pele corrections

Hello, Jacqui,

I happened upon the Pele Wiki link and noticed a few errors. I was about to correct the label and recording location info, but closed the preview screen before saving it. Then I noticed the errors concerning Marianne, and I guess since I used to live ten blocks from her and I know half a dozen or more people who went to junior high school with her, including Tori, I probably take that more personally than I do Tori's label info. (She was with Atlantic and eastwest for seven albums each, with eastwest starting with LE, with Atlantic as of YKTR, and first released on Epic in 2002--but only in the U.S.; who said Pele was on Epic? Do they not own a copy of the album and are thus unable to look at the label? Very curious. They also might have noticed the booklet credits which spoke about some recording in La., too, and whatever else it said. I don't have the CD in front of me right now so I'm not gonna check what it said, but the booklet notes are on Toriphoria, I believe: <yessaid.com>. I have other minor problems with the entry, but I've noticed nothing else that's a blatant factual error.)

Anyway, as for personal reasons I would rather not do this right now, I was hoping you might edit the correction to the Marianne info. And as you seem to have put up most of the Marianne info, I thought I would write you as a courtesy.

First, Maryanne Curtis didn't spell her name as the title of the song is spelled. I have no idea why that's spelled as it is; I never asked Tori. Whenever we've spoken it was always a rushed situation, and that was not a priority. I guess I need to offer evidence why I know that Maryanne Curtis went to Eastern Junior High School (now a middle school) with Tori rather than to high school with Tori at Richard Montgomery, so here it is: Tori's bio says she moved with her family in July 1978 to Rockville where she attended RMHS when her dad's parish was changed, and I know people who went to junior high and high school with Maryanne in Silver Spring where I'm from, and I've seen photos of Maryanne in the Blair yearbooks which were taken while Tori was at RMHS. I've also spoken with Tori about Maryanne, specifically pertaining to when she last saw Maryanne before moving to Rockville. So this is not a casual tidbit I picked up someplace. (I'm curious where your bit on Marianne came from, BTW. I don't mean to complain, I'm just wondering.)

So although Maryanne did indeed die while a high school student, Tori didn't know her then--at all. [This bit censored as it's between "you and me" as Handal put it, but of course that means any evidence he offered couldn't be verified under Wikipedia's citation policy anyway -- J]

As to this murder story idea, I never even heard *of* that, and unless someone in their basement somewhere thought it up at the time for five minutes, it's entirely erroneous. Everyone I asked who knew her always understood that she'd died of an overdose, and the suicide idea was nothing I ever found that anyone had heard, either. Tori explained to me why she had that in her own mind and wrote the song that way and spoke of Maryanne's demise in those terms, but that's more personal than I care to share right now. Jason may have a transcript up of Tori talking about Maryanne on the 11 Feb 1996 WHFS radio interview, so you may want to look that up and include the Magdalene bit, while you're on Toriphoria.

I apologize for writing out of the blue this way. It's always been difficult for me to write about this. I hope you'll understand. If you wanna blow me off, I can live with that. But please know that I mean no disrespect.

http://r2d2.reverse.net/~handal/richard_posts.html

Much thanks. Take care, Richard Handal, H.G.

Hopiakuta 00:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

Please, does anyone know on what pages the pig photographs might appear on??

Especially, though not limited to, billboard-style??

Hopiakuta 00:10, 23 July 2006 (UTC)