Talk:Boyar

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Is this term related to German 'Bauer' somehow?

probably cognate to Dutch boor/boer ("farmer") and French baron.

In the middle-ages, rich farmers made their way into the aristocracy elsewhere in Europe, so it is possible this term was adopted in Russian. — Jor 14:18, Jan 13, 2004 (UTC)

It might be a connection. But dictionary.com says it's:
From boiaren, from Russian boyarin, from Old Russian boljarin, from Turkic baylar, pl. of bay, rich; akin to Turkish bay, rich, gentleman.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=boyar

Bogdan | Talk 16:12, 13 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Thanks. I was wondering about this :) — Jor 19:20, Jan 13, 2004 (UTC)

67.175.166.55 03:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)In the rapidly-changing economy of contemporary Romania, the boyars' medieval domains were practically converted into colonial plantations.

What does this sentence mean? What is "contemporary Romania"? Contemporary as in 2000, or 18th century, or 19th century? "Colonial plantations"? Whose colonies? Who is the coloniser? I don't get it. 67.175.166.55 03:00, 7 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Boyars Hierarhy

Who will translate it from http://old-rus.narod.ru/zvan.html and http://www.websib.ru/~gardarika/lec/lec4-2.html ? The hierarhy for Russia has Boyare Dumskie (of Duma), Boiare Starshie ("Elder" or Senior), Boyare Men'shie ("Junior" or Minor), Deti Boyarskie ("Childeren" a kind of Gentelman)