User talk:BoxingWear

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Rocky

correction, i said this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rocky_Marciano&diff=84761896&oldid=84760741 This was most correct version, this idiot today reverted everything under umbrella of POV, which is not, go there and see what can be done to be reverted to this version. Everything has been deleted, the bio looks pathetic now, also, do you know any good sports administrators, so we can return to correct version? Today Nov 1st the page has been terribly vandalized. They do not know any history. Oct 30th last version was fine and the version that was there was there for over a year, go there and reverse, the guy who did this should be banned, ke killed lots of important information., take care. Also a link to Nino Valdez boxing record is missing. As far as 50th bout goes, nobody claimed for sure, but there are people who claim it, anyways, it'g good you put it in parenthesis, as a possibility, like it was.

Ok, I will look into that site soon. I think you may have a point. -BoxingWear

Well it seems they improved the site but it's still not 100%. -Ananymous

Can I give your name, signt your posts pal. I will see what I can do about the link above, seems there are few things missing.-BoxingWear

Boxing bios

How you doing? Can you change few bios, there are so many idiots here, not to mention many administrators who do not even know how to count, and there are certain things which need changing, i understand you know a lot about fight game.-Nov 20

I need your assistance... Marciano page is ok, but messed up, many good things are missing, about 85-0 comparison, to Robinson, other fighters, read my post above, see what you can do, i understand you know a great deal on boxing, i know who you are, somebody told me me about you, so hopefully you can fix this, best wishes and happy turkey. Nov 22

You mean your name or boxers? There are others as well. Willie Pep.

Kick boxing vs Boxers...

Check this out dude...

http://www.k-1usa.net/docs/fighters/fightfinder.asp?fighterID=581 I wonder who has this, but Briggs won in 1 round, good to know, good to try.

Willie Pep, Joe Louis and few others

When you get back, try to look into these people, we need some changes there, you may have more boxing knowledge than I, but there are many mistakes, thanx.

What information do you have on Pep, did he just die? What happened?

Reply

Thank you for your interest, but calm down, i will look into marciano page and joe louis and other pages, i am sure we need to correct few things. I love the kick boxing link, what exactly do you have in mind. Ok, got your email, will look into your concerns. I was able to look into few things, i did check your links and historical files with other papers, so you seem to have some great points, including info on klitschko. User_talk: BoxingWear

Greatest kickboxers

I was interested what would you say who is the greatest kick boxer, in boxing, we can guess, what about in kickboxing, no grapping style. User_talk: BoxingWear

A late welcome

Welcome!

Hello, BoxingWear, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! --Victor 16:24, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Who are you? What do you mean by helpme and what shall I ask you? -Boxingwear

Hi! I'm Victor. I'm a wikipedian just like yourself (more details on my user page). Some wikipedians are usually enthusiastic in welcoming new members. So they place fancy welcome templates on new users talk pages.
{{helpme}} is a template you can add on your talk page if you are need of some help from an experienced wikipedian or an administrator. And please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~). Your comment in Talk:Jean-Claude_Van_Damme#Title_bouts did't carry a signature that links to your page. Its important specially when another wikipedian wants to contact you on your comment.
About boxing/kickboxing I've no interest. Cheers and happy editing.--Victor 02:19, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, Victor, if you look above, you will see that I did sign my name, as I always do.

Good addition

Hello boxwear, thanx for adding few things on Rocky site, goodness... it was so overdue, really long... people here have no idea what they are doing, as usual. what about Willie Pep? What about Shaonnon Briggs and kick boxing, he only had one bout? -Boxing fan

Hey, what's up boxing fan, I did what I thought should be there, no more, no less, you can do it for Pep, simply create an account, i will see you or talk to you, keep up the good job. User_talk: BoxingWear

Police brutality

Hello,

I noticed you added a case to the article police brutality, which I removed and you then reverted. I removed the case because it was not discussed on the talk page. Past discussions have set criteria for cases appearing on the list, and currently there is discussion there as to what cases belong in the article. I welcome your input on the talk page. I am reverting your addition again pending the discussion there. --Ginkgo100 talk 01:24, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

Not really, that article was perfect for police brutality, not all will I discuss, if it's self given, what is there to talk about?

Sorry I missed your response here; I did not intend to ignore you. What there is to discuss is that there is already an agreement about what to add to police brutality. It's not set in stone, and if you want to change it you must first propose your change there! I also responded on my talk page. --Ginkgo100 talk 19:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

All I know is this, if you are shot 110 times, that is not picnic...police brutality!

A neat trick...

Type This is a VERY old code, as old as Wikipedia itself. Try this: don't type anything else but this -

yes, but what I need from is a code that will lead people to my talk page, not my main page.

Sites corrected

If anybody needs more help on boxing or kick boxing, let me know. We need to correct lineal champions, number in order. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Lineal_heavyweight_champions -BoxingWear

Amazing, reverting over greatest on marciano

This guy keeps on inverting info about rocky, as one of the greatest, i never said he was, i said something else, also included 2 links with interviews, see that word stays here, again nobody is greatest, impossible to say. Different time eras. But perfect record speaks for itself, he beat the best of his times.

Hello 64, how can I help you exactly? Greateness is not measured in word greatness, being undefeated in a heavy-weight division, without one draw is greatness.User_talk: BoxingWear

Greatest fighters, lineal champs

Why is this missing, did we vote for it, why are these people doing this?Last time I checked it was more pro than con. I think that was a good article, do you ever care, i mean, do something more.

I agree with you about the lineal champs thing. What do you want to do?

Also, why do you continue to revert my changes? The changes I made to the Marciano page significantly improved the way the article read. They consolidated paragraphs, removed information that did not belong in paragraphs, etc. I'm not trying to undo your work. I am trying to make these articles much easier to read as well as remove weasel words and other things. It seems you just go through and revert everything I do because of some personal vendettta. I'm all for finding common ground, but the information here has to meet Wikipedia standards. Some of the things you write does not meet those standards. Also, some of the things you write are very poorly written. We can keep the content, but the grammar, punctuation, syntax, etc., needs to be improved. That's what I'm doing, but then you revert. MKil 19:07, 19 January 2007 (UTC)MKil

Not so, not at all, you keep on insisting and playing same old game, every time I do something, I do it right and explain the situation, you have some personal vandetta, and vandetta is not spelled with 3 t's. No, I am making them much to read, you are simply complicating everything. This is enough. All has been explained, you keep on repeating yourself and not answering proper questions. It's all well known and you even contradict that. User_talk: BoxingWear

Look, you can't write very well. I am attempting to clean up your writing and make these articles better. You provide no reason for your reverts except some dislike of me. Let's work together to try and include the information you want but also have it presented in a readable way. If you think I'm removing relevant material, then point that out. If you are simply upset because I change your poor writing or remove your usage of weasel words (I posted the policy on the Baker page, you may want to read up on it), then you have no room for complaint. MKil 19:37, 19 January 2007 (UTC)MKil

Again and again, all was pointed out, you are simply playing games here. Also first you say i write bad, then you say I do not., Now when you are wrong on few things, you slowly change language.

No, I've always contended that your writing is bad. The articles you write are hard to read and include a variety of grammar and syntax problems. Let's talk about trying to find common ground. MKil 19:41, 19 January 2007 (UTC)MKil

Do not leave me any messages, I will delete them, you are changing story, I will not allow this to go on. -Boxingwear Baker article, you kill all the information, not only few words, take away days and important information, I WILL NEVER ALLOW THIS TO STAND. This is vandalism now. -Boxingwear

You might want to read what lmcelhiney wrote on his/her page: "OK, BoxingWear and MKil, You folks need to work together to resolve this, please. The Talk page is longer than the article! Here are two examples which are similar to this article: Tony Gale and Marcel Cerdan. Note, that both are basically a blob of text on the page without citations. Now, look at Rocky Graziano, Al Hostak, and Sugar Ray Robinson for example which have been WikiFied. Note the use of an introduction and sections which pull together common information. Do not use weasel words, your invention, that has been explained., I am not using any caps, except to point out your private agenda. -Boxingwear

Why are you getting so agitated? Weasel words is a wikipedia term that is well-known. You might want to go and read the style manual. It does not seem you are well-acquainted with it. If you look rationally at my changes, you will see they are well-written and improve the flow of the article. Your revisions merely degrade the quality of the article. Again, if I am removing legitimate information, please point it out. I am willing to work with you on this and other topics of common concern (lineal champs page, for instance). My goal is for accurate and well-written Wikipedia articles on boxing. Why do you thwart movement in this direction? MKil 19:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)MKil

Bob "The Grinder" Baker

(Copied from User:Lmcelhiney Talk page)

==Wikified== Hello, I am trying to make this one article wikified, also I did provide few sources, hopefully you can review few things. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by .User_talk: BoxingWear

I, too, am trying to improve the Baker article. Unfortunately, my attempts to improve the writing on the page as well as remove weasel words, insertion of rumors, etc., are continually reverted. Let's work together to improve this article. MKil 19:09, 19 January 2007 (UTC)MKil

That is 100% not true, I am simply putting correct information, also Mkil had lots of problems with other users in the past. I simply want article to look good, i am not doing anything wrong, this man demands self evident truth, something that already exists in the world he wants evidence, he had problems with calling rocky greatest, as some people consider him, i gave links, he reverted, I would like this user no longer to bother others, sure, he can reply well and may be he means well, but he is not doing it right, so even if he means well, eventually problems arise, I was asked by others as well to look into his problems. Here's some evidence, this guy HAS SERIOUS BEHAVIORAL problems, 3 rule revert, so this happened last year with others... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:MKil#3RR

Every time I try to fix something, he keeps on inverting his own story, on the Baker talk page, I truly explained myself, on rocky marciano page, others tried to explain. He simply does not listen, will not listen,then when he gives an argument, he writes a whole book, repeats himself and adds stuff totally irrelevant to the situation, tries to revert the given, something already well, well known.User_talk: BoxingWear

OK, please don't use MY talk page for your personal disagreements!


OK, BoxingWear and MKil, You folks need to work together to resolve this, please. The Talk page is longer than the article! Here are two examples which are similar to this article: Tony Gale and Marcel Cerdan. Note, that both are basically a blob of text on the page without citations. Now, look at Rocky Graziano, Al Hostak, and Sugar Ray Robinson for example which have been WikiFied. Note the use of an introduction and sections which pull together common information.
Use WikiPedia (as I did to find these articles) and Google to find other sources of information and cite your sources. (That doesn't mean just putting an external reference at the bottom or having WikiLinks within the article.) Then, once you have the facts and all agree on them, you can write the article and have minor disagreements over the way something is said. Right now, there is so little material there and so many weasel words (many, some, about, etc.) that the article has no chance of being retained over time. The guidelines here give you lots of information about what an article should look like and how to use and cite sources.
As painful as it might seem, you might be better off in simply rewriting the entire article than trying to piece together improvements. Every time that you swap edits back and forth, it draws attention on the Recent Changes page and brings in folks like me. By the way, I have absolutely no interest in boxing--just in making WikiPedia better (not perfect, but better).
Please write to me if you want additional guidance or suggestions. Thanks for listening. Larry

Lmcelhiney 19:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

I tried and tried and tried to reason with this man, not only that he is taking away important information on Baker, he is doing the same with Rocky, if you go on my talk page, it has been explained, other users complained, so, try to block that guy, he is killing very important informtion, e.g. Chuvalo fight, date sep 9, keeps on reverting, i mean, he is hopeless, this is now vandalism, he has his own agenda, and other users reported that problem to me. He should not be allowed on wiki, he creates problems. Besides I was a pro boxer, I know a little bit more. The problem is, he keeps on putting words into my mouth. Another point, on marciano page, he reverted my edit abour rocky's military service, i deleted united kingdom reference, since he did not provide evidence of that, this is not a self given, we need to know that for sure, he needs to provide sources, i wanted to add myself he delivered ammunition to soldiers in France, but I have no link to prove it. User_talk: BoxingWear All I ask is that my edits and BoxingWear's edits be compared and judged on their merits. Mine are better written and avoid the use of weasel words. This disagreement is becoming quite childish, I'll admit. It's unfortunate that it has to reach the level where we are drawing the attention of others. MKil 19:59, 19 January 2007 (UTC)MKil

Folks, no one is going to compare your edits and judge them on their merits until you simply stop changing them and allow people to read them! You'll never be able to create this article if each of you have such ownership of the text. But, please understand, THAT is not the problem with this article. Your reverts will cause the article to be protected or the editors blocked or banned.

Please take this argument off of my User page...

Lmcelhiney 20:16, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Excuse me, I have a perfect record here, nothing wrong, always follow all the policies, did nothing wrong, only corrected things, the only person who should not be allowed is mkil who is a vandal. -

I mean, I do not want to create war edits, but this guy should not be here, again read what I said above, he had problems before, he says he cleans up some bad grammar, a little true, but he kills tons and tons of information.Again, i am glad he corrects certain words, but man alive, he kills so much more, he kills all the contributions from other good contributors. User:Boxingwear


One, the user with the IP address beginning with 58 is not me. Two, you may want to read the following page on how to resolve disputes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Resolving_disputes). In it, it states, "Be respectful to others and their points of view. This means primarily: Do not simply revert changes in a dispute. When someone makes an edit you consider biased or inaccurate, improve the edit, rather than reverting it. Provide a good edit summary when making significant changes that other users might object to." When you make changes, I do not automatically delete them. I try to improve your writing. That is what I did today. You added some info on Patterson and then when I tried to improve it, you automatically reverted it. That is a violation of Wikipedia policy. MKil 19:41, 20 January 2007 (UTC)MKil


Alredy explained DO NOT TALK TO ME, DO YOU UNDERSTAND?! YOU WILL KEEP ON ADDING GARBAGE ON MY SITE, I do not need that and again, you deleted tons of information. STAY AWAY! User:Boxingwear

There are no bad sentences, I am reverting what you revert, other people's good work, again you have time on your hands to come up with excuses after excuses and then again some new excuses. I will again reply, but do not reply on my talk page, go reply on yours, do you ever read articles, no, it says exhibition only and citation has been given on other new year match, think...Boxingwear

Working Together

I'm certainly wiling to work with you, especially on the lineal championship page. I'll try to find some citations for the work on there in order to get it restored.

However, you really need to quit going through and reverting my edits. For example, on the Joe Hipp page, I took out some POV commentary as well as corrected the link to his record (someone had linked to Bruce Seldon's record, not his). You simply reverted everything.

Forget it, you are not following anything. A lot to say: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rocky_Marciano#Third_opinion

Message for Mkil

Read my lips, do not talk to me, do not contact, do not write, you say one stroy, do another, i ask you do work together to bring back lineal champions article, you do your own story, never reply to important articles, nothing, go bother somebody else, you have time on your hands, enjoy. I tried. Boxingwear

This is what you said before and kept on doing what you are doing, you make everything neutral in your world, i said what i had to say above. You keep on with the same story. Boxingwear

http://www.eastsideboxing.com/news.php?p=7734&more=1. Looking through boxing books, you can see the same lineage described most often as the "World Heavyweight championship," from a time before sanctioning bodies gave out championships. Harry Mullan's Boxing: The Definitive Illustrated Guide to World Boxing is a good source.

If you could restore this page I'll make an effort to add citations and bring it up to Wikipedia quality standards. Thanks for your consideration. MKil 14:44, 23 January 2007 (UTC)MKil

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Gwernol"

Never mind, you only reply when your back is turned to the wall.-Boxingwear

Re:Problem

Try taking it to WP:ANI Cbrown1023 22:44, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I really do not understand your comments, and do not feel comfortable acting on that matter, I would appreciate it if you take it to WP:ANI. Cbrown1023 22:10, 24 January

p>This guy simply is after me, every time has same story new rhetoric and vice versa, spends his time all day searching for some proof which only exists in his head, must be stopped asap!Boxingwear


I feel that all administrators are good, plus you would get more opinions, why did you contact me in the first place? Cbrown1023 22:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Re:Mkill problem

Please post your side of the story here. Cheers, PTO 00:32, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I am not an administrator, and I don't decide on blocks. I left it up to the administrators to decide, but I'm sure they'll block you for at least a little while. PTO 01:14, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

You should know wiki rules, to wait before other party replies, before you give your third opinion... -Boxingwear

You responded to my talk page. Your response gave me enough information to give a 3O. PTO 01:22, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

NO IT DID NOT, because the article cleary demands opinion by second person ON MARCIANO PAGE, what I replied on your page, was not my full and official reply, so learn wiki policy and learn few things. I reject your reply. Boxingwear

WP:3RR violations have nothing to do with intention. Instead, edit warring will warrant a block. Period. I'm sorry, but I think you made the wrong decision this time. Cheers, PTO 01:28, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Be quiet, you are telling me what i did wrong and you are nto administrator, the 3rr belongs to mkil, read my reply, as others warned him, correcting things, wrong decision, now you are trying to save your face because you did not wait for my reply on official rocky talk page, buddy YOU VIOLATED THE WIKI POLICY, NOT ME! I do not want to talk to you about this since you are not on the defensive and more...read what i write for a change!-Boxingwear

Please, calm down. We should try to stay away from angry messages to each other, as it really doesn't help much. I didn't violate any Wikipedia policy. PTO 01:36, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

I replied to this already!-Boxingwear

Administrators usually have a lot more experience than I do, along with other traits that I don't have at the moment. And yes, sysops and administrators are the same thing. Cheers, PTO 01:40, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

+ I certainly was patient and civil. Criticism and constructive one, if you consider that not civil, brush up on some logic.

You denounced MKil's contributions as vandalism. That was not civil. Cheers, PTO 01:45, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

They were, read my replies, i reject your reply, dont write with statements like that!Boxingwear

Vandalism is, to quote Wikipedia:Vandalism, "any addition, removal, or change of content made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity of Wikipedia." MKil's edits were intended to help the page to make it more readable. PTO 02:03, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

You are simply giving pure answer, because you are his friend, you have no explanation that you did not give me 48 hours for a reply, you passed on judgment on me, without waiting for an answer, what do you think my edits were for? I know more about certain people than you do, again I DO NOT AGREE WITH YOU AND I REJECT your foolishs statement, do not write again! Exactly, the link you gave me applies to you and mkil. Speaking of greateness, there are many articles on pros and cons... pro.. http://www.youngvictorboxing.com.au/jimamato_news.htm -Boxingwear

Look, I don't know PulltoOpen and I am not logging in under any other IP. Your claims are false and violate Wikipedia standards that require you to assume good faith in other editors. A third party warned you in no uncertain terms that your actions were violating Wikipedia policy. I propose that we work together to improve these pages. I have no problem with working with you. Let's see what we can do together. MKil 04:30, 26 January 2007 (UTC)MKil

Read above my statements, I proposed working together, I have nothing of it now-also, good faith, i never said that in the beginning nor did I accuse you of anything, that was later, when you became unreasonable and so on, asking friends to intervene on your part/side and possibly using 58.8 ip to back your story, I have enough evidence in that regard. Also, you are a master of putting words into people's mouth and working around the words-Boxingwear http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:BoxingWear#Message_for_Mkil

Mediation Cabal Response

Hello. I posted a response to your request at the Mediation Cabal. Good luck! --Willscrlt (Talk·Cntrb) 04:09, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

WP:MEDCAB

Would you like to open a case at WP:MEDCAB to help resolve your issues with other users? I would be willing to help. PTO 04:25, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Nice message, no direct attacks. Ok, but basically I do not want mkil to screw with marciano page once it gets unblocked, sure he is civil, but so are many criminals out there, con-artists and so on, by ye results you shall be judged, not civility or empty talk. Now, how to archive things, upload photos, create rectangular colorful box like you have, get music, change one article into anotheer, assuming the name is wrong. Also I have a feeling some people have been logging off their user name and going to other computer, do administrators have power to track that?I know blocked users can not log on, evenif they are in good standings, hmm... i think many walk away from wiki because of that, no wonder, not to mention long arguments...as they should be walking away, i heard some stories...ignorance is the key! Boxingwear

Only CheckUsers have the ability to check IPs, which they will not do unless probable cause is given. I'll answer any questions you have...all you have to do is give me a shout! Cheers, PTO 19:50, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

But would you say then checkusers are administrators? -Boxingwear

I'm not sure I understand your question. All CheckUsers are administrators, but not all administrators are CheckUsers. PTO 23:17, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

What do you mean by that, that's paradoxical?Wow, fast reply, how is that? Boxingwear

All of the people who have CheckUser access are administrators as well. Not all people with administrator access are CheckUsers. Here is an example:
  • User:Essjay is a CheckUser. Essjay is also an administrator. Now, User:Nishkid64 is an administrator as well, but he doesn't have CheckUser access.
Is that any better? PTO 23:41, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
More specifically, you can place a request for a checkuser at WP:RFCU. If you decide to pursue this, please read the request instructions carefully. Random fishing expeditions will not be accepted - you will need to make a case as to which parties you want to checkuser against, and what policy is being violated by there being two accounts. I cannot understand what your specific complaint is, quite honestly - are you saying he's a previously banned user or is using two accounts to avoid edit restrictions? Kuru talk 03:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

He may be banned, but if he was, I do not care, if he wants to edits and help, why not... that is not my business if he has 100 banned accounts. But, it's possible he may be logging in under 58.8 as explained and my have other accounts._boxingwear

Your recent edits

Please stop posting random accusations on the talk pages of IPs that have edited the Rocky Marciano article, such as [1], or [2]. We will need to assume good faith that there are other editors interested in editing the page. If you suspect that one of those IPs is trying to get around the three revert rule or is harassing you or vandalizing the article, we can look into it, but I do not see any such activity.

I have protected the article again for a short period. I really need to ask you to head back to the talk page and work out your differences there, and to remain civil. Please stop accusing other editors of bad faith edits and simply work with them to correct the article in a way that meets our verification policies. You are a knowledgeable and good editor - that's easy to see - just don't let people get under your skin simply because they disagree with you. Kuru talk 03:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

No, I am not accusing 64, just asking, but 58, yea, i would like investigation into this... Yea, good to know you protect it. I am suspectig mkil of being user 58.8 and possibly 64. I did what I could and according to best boxing knowledge. I will be glad to resolve problem, but mkil is the problem, i am not blaming anybody else, i mean, well, look on my talk page...Thanx for calling me good editor.-Boxingwear

Other things

It's not easy just talking about this problem, but I have other things I need to fix, first... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Mediation_Cabal#Lineal_Heavyweight_boxing_champions

Then, how to create music on my page, move to archives, add a rectanle so my conversation appears in it, how to create archives, i asked this quries other users and of course, nothing. Reply on my talk page, i will be busy these days, but do what i suggest on rocky. I may not (fully)reply for few days. Also, greatest ever, still not resolved, computer fight means nothing. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rocky_Marciano#Greatest_problem.2C_not_resolved.2C_people_who_participated_in_the_poll_do_not_know_boxing

Arguments will not stop with mkil, i will no longer reply there (except now and then), I will leave you some messages instead, mkil is using every single word i say to my advantage, here, american biographers wrote on rocky, as the greatest, if not, greatest puncher ever... http://www.myhero.com/myhero/hero.asp?hero=rockymarciano so yea, SOME PEOPLE CONSIDER HIM AS THE GREATEST, must be there. I am not going to search for more links, agian, i explained, it's a given. It belongs, it's part of reality. So, there you go, correct the article the way I requested and tell mkil never to touch rocky site again. Only people like mkil need evidence for something that is already given and proven thru time. As Barnum said, there are fools born every second... Obviously, now we know why courts give statutes of limitations... Boxingwear

Your recent edits (2)

BoxingWear, I've got to be honest here - I'm seeing some fairly civil and solid proposals from mkil and PTO, and I'm seeing several strong accusations and borderline personal attacks from your end. Again, focus on the discussion of the content of the article and stop accusing others of vandalism. I'm not seeing anything even close to vandalism in the edit log; so please drop that. If you continue to insult the other editors and disrupt the discussion on the article's talk page, you will be blocked for a short period to cool down. Kuru talk 23:51, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I fully reject this statement, I asked you to look at http://www.myhero.com/myhero/hero.asp?hero=rockymarciano I asked you to look over many other things, since mkil accused me of vandalism, read what I say,i am not saying pto is doing that,only mkil, i gave my answer, i replied, i almost wrote a book with all these replies, i told you what mkil did wrong,what I did right, i am only replying to mkil since he is calling it vandalism, ok, i may agree on a language, needs changing, but why are you not replying to my proposals, i gave you the website to call rocky greatest, you can not call a computer greatest, something must be done about this, i will no longer talk on marciano page, only to you and also I replied and fully explained why. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Mkil_problem.2C_I_need_protection_against_this_individual_asap Boxingwear

Copyediting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyediting.

Hmmm, again, I asked you not to leave me messages here, did I, wow, yea fine, but you still are not doing it right, sometimes you input copyrighted material as well! -Boxwear

Blocked

Blocked as a sockpuppet

You have been blocked indefinitely as a sockpuppet of a banned or blocked user. As a blocked or banned user you are not entitled to edit Wikipedia. All your edits have been reverted.

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Chick Bowen 00:14, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

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Request reason: "No reason given"

Decline reason: "Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/George Reeves Person confirms that you are a sockpuppet of a banned user. -- Yamla 22:21, 1 February 2007 (UTC)"

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I will do my best not to rant or anything as a matter of fact i have recently agreed on few things, i am not a sock poppet, i did leave messages for other administrators because of all these ranting and edit wars i may get into trouble, check my history and contribution, i did what was best and had no intention to cause problems but nobody listens here. I am the one who checked and requested for ip user check against another use. Why would I get into trouble, just because somebody you think is suck poppet left me a message, also, i could easily create another user id from different ip and nobody will know, this is my ONLY account! Honestly, when I asked for assistance, there was no assistance, so what am I supposed to do? It is not my fault some administrators think otherwise or think i am somebody else. Boxingwear

Re: Lineal Heavy weight boxing champions (originally posted to wrong page)

Hi, you replied on meditation, is that something new, i thought i should post on administrator noticeboard? I want to recreate that article, was deleted for no reason, will need your assistance, also i need a good wikipedian to look after my edits. Boxingwear —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BoxingWear (talk • contribs).

Hello there Boxingwear: I regret I am unclear as to what exactly what you are asking me, although I will attempt to respond to what I think you meant.
In response to your first point, mediation has been around on Wikipedia for a long time - it is far from new - but the purpose of mediation is quite different from that of the Administrator's Noticeboard (WP:AN). The Administrator's Noticeboard is to post messages about issues requiring the attention of Wikipedia administrators; the purpose of mediation is to provide a neutral assistance in solving disputes between multiple third-parties. From what you describe above it doesn't sound like either is appropriate to your scenario.
I am assuming that you dispute the deletion of an article and you want it to be restored. In which case, you will need to post your request at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion, and if the article was deleted by standard process you may wish to consider whether it falls within Wikipedia's encyclopaedic scope.
As for "looking after" your edits, do you mean "looking over" as in you would like me to advise you on how you could improve your editing? If so, I would be more than willing to do so; but if you mean "looking after" as in protecting them from being removed, I regret that I cannot do so.
I hope the above was at least in some way an answer to your question - if it was not, please feel free to elaborate, and I may be able to answer you better. I wish you all the best of success on Wikipedia. Yours, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 00:06, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
I accidentally replied to the above at User_talk:Boxingwear rather than User_talk:BoxingWear, due to the way you name yourself in your edits. Now I've found the right page, I note the above. I suspect my response will probably not be much good, then. --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) 20:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
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