Talk:Bowery (Manhattan)

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[edit] Farm location

Not too sure about the meaning of this para (and see earlier revs).

This early farm was in today's Gramercy neighborhood near where East 15th and East 16th Streets crossed The Bowery. The farm house was located near what today is 1st Avenue and the road built by Peter Stuyvesant.

Looking for references now to write an explanation. Feel free to revert (as always) if I am missing something here. Caltrop 14:27, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Neighborhood/Street

I think clearer identification of Bowery Street and its relation to the Bowery would be fitting. Even something like, "Bowery Street runs down the middle of the Bowery" (as it is, "Bowery Street" doesn't actually appear anywhere in the current version). I'm reluctant to add a seemingly obvious statement myself without more familiarity with the subject, like whether the name of the street or the disctrict preceded. ENeville 03:16, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. Historically the Bowery has been recognized as the road to Peter Stuyvesant's Farm, as shown in the second map , http://www.forgotten-ny.com/Alleys/stuyvesant/stuy.html.

The name Bowery can also refer to the immediate area surrounding it, much in the same way "Broadway" often refers to the sidestreets that comprise the Theatre District. However, as a six lane throughfare. However, the Bowery tends to be more of boundry that separates and defines other neighborhoods, like the East Village, Noho, Little Italy, or Chinatown, rathar than a neighborhood in itself. Srosenstock 02:54, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I have to disagree because there is no "Bowery Street" it is just "Bowery", and if it were anything, it would be "Bowery Avenue" which sounds as ridiculous as saying "Broadway Avenue". This is why "Bowery Street" does not appear anywhere in the current version. Context makes clear whether one is referring to the street or the (very) small neighborhood, such as "I live in / on the Bowery" where the former is the neighborhood and the latter is the street. JesseRafe 03:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)