Talk:Boston, Lincolnshire

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Contents 1 Page name 2 Help needed/Todo 2.1 Copyedit 2.2 20th and 21st century history 2.3 Sites of Interest 2.4 Derivation of the name 'Holland' 3 Images 4 Date of the bridge 5 Basil Brush moment 6 Redirect FYI 7 Blogs

[edit] Page name

"Why can't the standard Boston redirect to Boston, Lincolnshire, as it is the oldest Boston in the World. Wikipedia is meant to be for people worldwide, not just Americans.Footballexpert 17:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)"

Probably becuase Boston, Lincolnshire doesn't even come close to the current and historical (American revolution) importance of Boston, Mass. It doesn't matter which one is older, if you ask most people around the world, I doubt they would know Boston in England even exists. Wikipedia directs to the definition of a word as it is most widely used around the world, and outside of Lincolnshire the word "Boston" almost always is associated with Boston, Mass. It's not Ameri-centric, it's just the way it is.

Shouldn't this be at either Boston, Lincolnshire or Boston, United Kingdom? john 09:47, 10 May 2004 (UTC)

Yes, the standard format is "Town, County". I have moved the page to this format. Joe D (t) 17:25, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Why can't the standard Boston redirect to Boston, Lincolnshire, as it is the oldest Boston in the World. Wikipedia is meant to be for people worldwide, not just Americans.Footballexpert 17:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

I made a similar, though not quite as extreme, suggestion recently on Talk:Boston (disambiguation). I think the result was satsifactory, though someone since tried to undermine the change - since reverted to what was agreed or something very similar. SMeeds 18:17, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Help needed/Todo

[edit] Copyedit

Working on it. Zerbey 00:15, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] 20th and 21st century history

I've had a hard time finding solid information on this (I wish my Father had an internet connection!), anyone care to volunteer to update this area? Zerbey 00:15, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Sites of Interest

Needs a huge expansion, especially the May Day.

[edit] Derivation of the name 'Holland'

I've removed the reference to the name Holland deriving from the visitations of Dutch drainage engineers - this simply isn't true. Southeastern Lincolnshire was called 'Holland' (actually, Hoiland) as least as far back as the Domesday Book, and thus the name far predates the draining of the Fens. The Oxford English Dictionary (in a secondary reference) gives the derivation as HOLL (deeply excavated or depressed) + LAND (as opposed to HOLT (wood) + LAND for the province of the Netherlands). TheVenerableBede

Thanks for clearing that up. I need to find the book I got that information out of and burn it. Zerbey 15:38, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Images

I did some re-processing of Kelly's photos. They were taken using a cheap 35mm camera so weren't the best quality to begin with! Next time we visit Boston we'll take some better images with a better camera... in the mean time would someone who is not 4,500 miles away like to volunteer to improve these? :-) Zerbey July 5, 2005 16:29 (UTC)

[edit] Date of the bridge

I have reverted the date of the new bridge with other cleaning up. My memory is that the 1953 date is more accurate than 1963 but I was away from the town over that period so am not sure. (RJP 16:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC))

I think it was 1963 but I could be mistaken, a quick Google search didn't reveal much. I'll ask one of my family members to look on Saturday if you like. Zerbey 22:53, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Consensus is that it was 1963, but I'm trying to get documentary proof. Zerbey 15:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Basil Brush moment

Boom Boom! "The early medieval geography of The Fens was much more fluid than it is today." I thought that that was the point of fenland, that they contained large amounts of fluid. Brendandh 21:30, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

True, but silly as it may seem, the fact is often overlooked, particularly once the land has been drained. :-) (RJP 23:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC))

[edit] Redirect FYI

Just a note, there is apparently another edit war in process as to whether Boston should redirect to Boston, Massachusetts or to the disambiguation page. It is currently pointing at the disambiguation page. I've created an RFD. Enjoy.--Bobblehead 18:37, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blogs

Blogs don't count as verifiable sources, and (except in specific and fairly exceptional circumstances) aren't acceptable as external links. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 10:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)