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Please do not edit archived pages. If you want to react to a statement made in an archived discussion, please make a new header on THIS page. Vseferović 04:10, 24 January 2007 (UTC) Archives: |
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[edit] Edit war
Erm, what's the big deal with this edit war? Most of the changes are cosmetic/stylish, except the inclusion of Ban Kulin charter, which should go in. I removed some argumentative text ("it ain't as old as some other documents but it's very old"), and rephrased it somewhat (it's not certain whether it's the oldest official text, at least without a source, so it's better to err on the side of caution). I find the "spoken by" expression simpler and less pompous than "native to" so I took that back as well. OK? Duja► 14:20, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Constantine the Philosopher
The article talks about something written by a certain "Constantine the Philosopher" in the summer of 1300. There were only two such people: one is Saint Cyril himself from the 9th century and the other is a Serbian writer from the end of the 14th and the first half of the 15th century.
- There is no other Constantine the Philosoper. --PaxEquilibrium 02:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
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- I would say that it refers to Saint Cyril, since he was a lingust. Vseferović 23:13, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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- Cyril was born in 827 and died in 869. --PaxEquilibrium 23:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
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- It is surely not the Serbian one. So it must be saint cyril, I belive however that there is yet another Constantin, but I might be wrong and that "saint cyril" in fact is just another name for the very same linguist. I will change to the new date for now and look closer into the matter within the nearest days. However, as I saw it more text than just this one was changed, stating that "Bosnian language" is a language of Bosnians - which of course is correct, but not when "bosnians" refer to all inhabitants of Bosnia. This is unconstitutional since Bosnian law and dayton recognizes exclusively the Bosnian language as the language of Bosniaks. Ancient Land of Bosoni
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- How are you so sure it's not the Slavic one (the dates correspond to 1300 more than Saint Cyril)?
- If there truly was yet another Constantine that was entitled "the Philosopher", I don't think that he's famous at all (not even one bit).
- Sorry, I didn't understand what you meant with your last (two) sentence(s). --PaxEquilibrium 20:19, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
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- I've looked the http://www.zemljabosna.org and it says that a certain Byzantine writer Constantine the philosopher wrote "Skazanie iziavljeno o pismenah" at the end of the 14th century, so it actually perfectly fits the Slavic one... however I also found that the page from which I took is slightly controversial (who is this Constantine the Philosopher?). --PaxEquilibrium 20:30, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
- Pax check your talkpage, I left a message. =) Ancient Land of Bosoni
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- Yeah, saw it; thanks. --PaxEquilibrium 15:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Arebica / alhamijado
Can somebody please add some more detailed information in arebica script? I don't live in BiH, but I imagine that there is a lot of good information on Arebica in libraries in that country. Can some Wikipedian from that country please add detailed information on Arebica?
[edit] Official recognition in the Dayton Accord and Constitution?
One paragraph in the "Controversy" section makes two factual claims that are demonstrably false:
"It is important to observe that the Dayton Peace Accord officially recognizes and specifies the Bosnian language as a distinct language spoken in Bosnia and Herzegovina by Bosniaks."
I have read that accord, and so can you: http://www.ohr.int/dpa/default.asp?content_id=380
It does not say anything about any status of any language at all.
(It did, historically, make a strong implied statement by being originally delivered in four languages. That is not the same thing at all.)
"As such the Bosnian language is officially recognized by constitution of Bosnia and Herzegovina as well."
I have read that constitution, and so can you: http://www.ccbh.ba/eng/p_stream.php?kat=518
It does not say anything about any status of any language at all.
81.17.231.158 15:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
