Talk:Boruch of Medzhybizh

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[edit] Badchan or Comedian

Hi Klezmer; I have nothing against you; no need to lash out against me. It is perfectly okay to disagree. So you thought that my changing "comedian" to "badchan" was wrong; maybe you're right. But why go and do a complete reversion of "all" my changes? The correct thing to do is to edit out what you think is improper and leave the good. Reversion should be used as a last resort, not as a way to vent anger.

Now to the question at hand; you're right that he wasn't exactly a "Badchan", but "Comedian" isn't either correct; it imparts the wrong information. We need to find something more factual. I looked up all synonyms of "Comedian" and I think that "Jester" which you originally used is the most appropriate.

Again I value you're work and am not in any "Cabal" against you. Please don't take it personally. You can delete my constructive criticism after you have read it. I’m sure we’ll work in tandem on many articles Itzse 23:16, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

I refuse to accept that he actually claimed to his followers that he had supernatural powers derived directly from his blood-connection to the Baal Shem Tov; but if you have a source then "im kabolah hee nekabel" (if it has mekor a source; then so be it). Itzse 23:30, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

First of all, I didn't undo all your edits, just the ones that watered down Hershel's connection. I left your other grammatical corrections intact. Second, before you go changing things, it's always best to do some research. I have, otherwise I wouldn't have added what I did. Badkhen was not appropriate - he wasn't a wedding MC nor a standup one-line Henny Youngman-type comedian - which is what a badkhen was. Jester does not fit into the second line about him either. Perhaps "comic" would be a better compromise. He wasn't the first Jewish court jester, but he was the first Jewish comic figure (after Balaam's donkey). I have lots of stories about Hershel and I chuckle at each one. I'm usually laughing with him ("comic") not at him ("jester").

The source I have for R. Borukh's supernatural claim is testimony collected by Abraham Rechtman during his 1914 ethnographic expeditions. I'll add the reference.--Klezmer 00:55, 20 March 2007 (UTC)