User talk:Bondego

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[edit] Copied from my talk page

Defamation warning Please don't defame biographies of living people. Compare this with Robert Spencer, which also calls someone researcher in the intro. The intro is not the place to place defamations like this. --Bondego 21:59, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure you know what defamation is precisely. I presume you refer to this edit [1]. It was an attempt at a compromise between you and twohorned. I see no reason why it is defamatory, Please read WP:BLP. Twohorned objected that Dr. Elst was not part of a professional outfit or a research team or a department, you pointed out that research does not require such a setup, I attempted to split the difference. This is not defamatory. Please do watch your words. Hornplease 22:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tipu Sultan

Hi. I was wondering if you could help me out a bit with fact checking Sikanderji's assertions in the recent debate on Tipu Sultan using his citations.I'd appreciate that. Regards. Hkelkar 17:06, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

I managed to get some (not all) refs from the library though any help you can offer will be greatly appreciated, of course :). Do email me if you get anything.Hkelkar 23:36, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Er, no I didn't get an email. Hkelkar 18:42, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

I got your email, thanks.Hkelkar 19:27, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Talk:Koenraad Elst and main article

USers are planning an assault on the page. Keep a lookout on the page.Bakaman _Bakatalk 01:31, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfA against me

Some of the ,er, users we know and love have filed an RfA against me:

Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration#User:Hkelkar

User:TwoHorned has been named as a party and whined about me exposing his antisemitism. I was wondering if you could send me the diffs you had posted in the WP:PAIN against him showing his accusations of Neocon "Jewish Conspiracies" so that I (or perhaps you) could post him as I listed you as an involved party based on the listing of TwoHorned.Hkelkar 16:23, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

Hi, I got your email. I hope you got mine.Hkelkar 19:17, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion of referenced stuf in Koenraad Elst page

Please stop cancel referenced sentences in the Koenraad Elst page. And, in the reference you have provided, it is never said that Elst belonged to "leftist neo pagans". Thank you. TwoHorned 12:25, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

I removed the reference for two reasons: First, it doesn't meet WP:RS for WP:BLP at all. It is a forum post!! Secondly, I replaced it with a better reference for the Elst article, an article written by the person in question itself.

Please realize that forum posts and Zydenbos personal homepage do not meet WP:BLP. Thank you. --Bondego 16:14, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hinduism

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--D-Boy 09:07, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hkelkar

Hello,

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hkelkar. Please add any evidence you may wish the arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hkelkar/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Hkelkar/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Thatcher131 12:40, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Defamation on Koenraad Elst

• As opposed to what is said in your edit summary, I did archive the defamation topic on Elst, so you don't need to waiste your time in editing my talk page. Admins involved in the ArbCom for Hkelkar's case don't need your help either in reading my contributions or my archives.

• You wrote in the Elst article his involvement in "leftist movement". I suppose you wrote this in an attempt at whitewashing Elst from his well known political affiliations. Not very convincing, and quite a bad try. But the point is: in the reference you give, where is it said that Elst belong to leftist movments ? He just writes that he went under a "leftist phase": he speaks of things in his twenties or less, like an old teenager souvenir. Don't you have something more "solid" ? Almost all regular teens go towards the left, you know.

• A quotation coming from Elst is not NPOV.

• The link I provided does come from a forum, but it is the most academic forum on Indology. However, no problem, I' ll provide the link from another source.

• You still persist in reversion in the Koenraad Elst page. Since the ArbCom on Hkelkar is under way, I will not reverse your edits until the case is settled. I'm not sure your behaviour will serve your cause anyway, and what you have done knowingly once again on the Koenraad Elst page will be reported in the case.

TwoHorned 17:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

• So saying that Elst had a leftist past (which Elst says himself), is whitewashing Elst? According to your earlier edits from his "extreme right wing connections"? Nice.
• You also wrote first that he was involved for some years in the New Age movement, without naming any movement or group. --Bondego 01:31, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] arbitration

Place the evidence in the Evidence section. Look at how other users have formatted their evidence sections to get an idea of what to do.Bakaman _Bakatalk 03:59, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar

This case is now closed and the results have been posted above.

• BhaiSaab (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) is banned for one year.
• Hkelkar (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) editing under any name or anonymous ip is banned from Wikipedia for one year.
• TerryJ-Ho (talk · contribs · logs · block user · block log) is banned for a year for personal attacks, disruptive comments, edit-warring and incivility.
• BhaiSaab is placed on probation for an indefinite period. He may be banned from any article or set of articles which he disrupts. All bans to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar#Log_of_blocks_and_bans.
• Hkelkar and socks is placed on probation for an indefinite period. He may be banned from any article or set of articles which he disrupts. All bans to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar#Log_of_blocks_and_bans.
• TerryJ-Ho is placed on probation for an indefinite period. He may be banned from any article or set of articles which he disrupts. All bans to be logged at Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/Hkelkar#Log_of_blocks_and_bans.

For the Arbitration committee, Cowman109^Talk 06:04, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Koenraad Elst

I maintain that Zydenbos link can be put the main article, because it comes from an academic. Since you have some doubts about it, I will ask council to a few admins about it. I persist in saying that Angelfire, as a provider, is irrelevant, the important point being the author of the article in question (Zydenbos). So we need some help here, and I'll provide it soon. Thanks, TwoHorned 09:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you for your support

Thank you for your support in the RfA on my behalf. It is an honor to have received your expression of confidence. To be chosen as an administrator requires a high level of confidence by a broad section of the community. Although I received a great deal of support, at this time I do not hold the level of confidence required, and the RfA did not pass. It is my wish that I will continue to deserve your confidence. Sincerely, --BostonMA ^talk 22:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the invite to collaborate on Tantra. I hope to be able to help in the coming days.

TheRingess 19:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] About The Giver

Somebody else wrote it in the list. I was just correcting how they spelled Lois Lowry's name because they spelled it Louis Lowery.'

Baby16 23:41, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Dharmic writers template

I don't think it is appropriate to put this template into the articles of writers who are not included in the template. Either add the writers to the template, or remove the template from the articles of writers not on it. It seems you want to promote the template and/or the other writers which seems rude to me. IPSOS (talk) 14:15, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I saw your comments on IPSOS's talk page, and I have to disagree. This template would be suitable for pages of modern authors who have written about their religion and contributed to its thought/ development. But not on the pages of those whose contribution in this sense is none or almost nil. For example, R. K. Narayan was a Hindu and a writer, but he can't be labelled a 'Hindu writer'. He has adapted stories from Indian mythology, (as have countless other writers in almost every Indian language including English) but he hasn't written on Hindu religion itself. Others: Arun Kolatkar, Sumitra Nandan Pant, Mahadevi Varma..

In addition, I would like to point out that even in the template, there are some writers whose inclusion is a long stretch: Rabindranath Tagore, Amrita Pritam: neither wrote much on religion. On the other hand, there are others whose non-inclusion in the template is glaring: Swami Vivekananda, Swami Dayananda, Sarvapalli Radhakrishnan, Bal Gangadhar Tilak, Vinayak Damodar Savarkar, Madhav Sadashiv Golwalkar (see Template:Hindu politics for more names.) All contributed prodigiously on Hindu religion and philosopy. I am not familiar with writers of other religions, so not able to comment on those. Anyway, we need more India-related templates, so your efforts in the direction are very welcome. -- Longhairandabeard 19:57, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

I will add that I also appreciate the template, but agree with both of Longhairandabeard's points. For example, Natalie Goldberg (who I've met), primarily writes about writing. Yes, she writes about Zen as well, and very eloquently, but she holds writing workshops. I wouldn't add her to the template. Namkhai Norbu, on the other hand, I would add to the template, and thus agree with adding the template to his article. So... the template should be expanded, but not indiscriminantly. It should be added to the articles which are appropriate, that is, the ones that are listed in the template (and no others). That's my opinion. But I do have to ask, why can't this be done with a category? Because the template guidelines say we should not use a template for something which can be done with a category. I think in this case that the template is better, because even if we create a category, most writers will be in subcategories of it, which makes the category less effective. Anyway, just a few thoughts that might bring focus about how to develop your idea. IPSOS (talk) 02:28, 15 February 2007 (UTC)