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Contents 1 PoV 2 individual ex-Bonzos 3 Discog 4 Removed some New Vaudeville stuff 5 "and this may encourage the band to stage another concert" 6 Cornology box set 7 Shouldn't the main title of this article be "Bonzo Dog Band"? 8 The Beatles' miscellanea 9 I assessed this article

[edit] PoV

I've removed the following (from the para about "Cool Britannia"):

Sadly, the pop music being recorded in Britain at the time was not nearly as creative as the Bonzos' output. That fact, a wide range of crises in the public services, and a series of unlikely winners of the annual Turner Prize helped quickly to dispel the notion that Britannia was about to regain a cool status...

It's very POV. --Camembert

Still lots of povness here. Probably needs a cleanup notice. Lee M 00:26, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] individual ex-Bonzos

I removed a paragraph on Vivian Stanshall as, although it was well written, it seemed to say nothing of substance that wasn't in the article on the man. Ditto for Neil Innes. I shunted a paragraph about Roger Ruskin Spear to a new article I created for the purpose. Not quite knowing what to do about the one-sentence paragraph on "Legs" Larry Smith, I moved it to the bottom of the article. -- Hoary 06:16, 2005 Feb 27 (UTC)

I've added a request for an article on Legs Larry Smith. Thanx if you have a PC and can do it............Raymi

[edit] Discog

It's probably my own personal taste that I think the Singles and LPs should go together, but I don't think that all of the albums need their US catalogue numbers (does it serve any purpose? If any cat. no. is required then surely we should use the British ones). I also think there's too much detail on the discog. It should be more of a list and shouldn't be quite so descriptive. It just makes it look scruffy. --NoNameR

• I agree, it's a matter of taste. In theory, it should be a matter for Wikipedia:Manual of style but I couldn't find anything on discogs last time I looked (though perhaps I didn't look as hard as I might).

I think you're right about the American cat labels, but I was loathe to remove them, especially as most people round these parts are American (I'm British).

I disagree, however, that albums and singles should be listed together - I don't think that's usual for a discog. I also disagree with putting all info on one line, rather than having the title alone with further details below as I don't think that's any tidier, per se.

I suggest we leave it as is for a few days and see if anyone else contributes to this discussion - see if we can get a consensus. --bodnotbod 00:47, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

On second thoughts, I really like the way David_Bowie_discography is laid out. Contrast with The_Beatles_discography. Plenty more inspiration at List_of_discographies --bodnotbod 01:05, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm always of the opinion that articles on things that are British should pertain to their Britishness. i.e. a Bonzos discog should reflect their British output first, and American output second. Yes, the Bowie discog does look good. Why I wanted to stick singles and albums together was that it helps 'tell the story' to see them like that. One can see which album followed which single, which singles came from which albums, etc. I'm quite keen that this article becomes a really good Bonzos chronology/biog as, although there are a lot of good webpages out there, none gives a thoroughly comprehensive history that compiles all of the available information. I've been hoping that this article could become that article. --NoNameR

I do like your use of pictures. Another problem with the Bonzos online is that, despite being a hugely visual medium, they're very poorly represented in that way online. Making the non Viv and non Neil members more identifiable is definitely a good thing! --NoNameR

Well I've put the discography into "Bowie format", which also seems to comply well with the nearest I could find to a Wikipedia policy on discogs at Wikipedia:Filmographies_and_Discographies. Apologies to those that added some of the fine details such as cat no.s etc, but I do feel that concise and tidy (Tidy & Nice) works well on an article such as this. --bodnotbod 14:00, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Removed some New Vaudeville stuff

I've removed the following:

"The changeover was hastened by the success of The New Vaudeville Band of which founder Geoff Stephens attempted to hire The Bonzos to be The New Vaudeville Band. Only Kerr was interested, so he left the Bonzos to help Stephens form a touring version of The New Vaudeville Band. Kerr patented The New Vaudeville Band's appearance after The Bonzos leading to accusations that The Bonzos were copying The New Vaudeville Band."

From what I can recall from Ginger Geezer I know what this is getting at, sort of. But I find I get a headache every time I try to parse the sentences and I can't seem to think how to fix it. At any rate, there must be a much, much better way of expressing whatever it is it's trying to say. --bodnotbod 12:20, 23 October 2005 (UTC)

I do think that this definitely needs to stay in in some form or other - it's the 'kick' that made the Bonzos into who they became. I'll work on turning it into something rather more readable...

--NoNameR

[edit] "and this may encourage the band to stage another concert"

Whilst this maybe true, it is not based on any evidence that there will be another concert. So it has been removed.

• Fair enough. Word on the street is that the celebs involved are applying friendly pressure for another gig at a bigger venue. --bodnotbod 23:02, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

• or tell all the Emo kids who like Death Cab for Cutie this is where theu got their name--Hailey 20:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cornology box set

I just created the article Cornology with the complete work of The Bonzos. How is it? Steelbeard1 22:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shouldn't the main title of this article be "Bonzo Dog Band"?

As the article itself makes clear, they are far better known by the shorter name, which was their official name for the great bulk of their career. BTfromLA 22:55, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

I moved it. Anyone who disagrees can move it back if they really want to Snoopydance 01:36, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The Beatles' miscellanea

Check The Beatles' miscellanea to see if there is anything in it you can use. A lot of 'miscellanea' needs to be trimmed (as linked articles are improved) so please feel free to use anything before certain sections get zapped into the ether... ThE bEaTLeS aka andreasegde 16:30, 3 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I assessed this article

as a start because of POV and formatting issues. 03:13, 4 March 2007 (UTC)