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Bon Scott was a good article candidate, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. Once the objections listed below are addressed, the article can be renominated. You may also seek a review of the decision if you feel there was a mistake. Date of review: 2007-02-28

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Portal Bon Scott is maintained by WikiProject Australia, which aims to improve Wikipedia's coverage of Australia and Australia-related topics. If you would like to participate, visit the project page. B This article has been rated as B-class on the quality scale. Mid This article has been rated as mid-importance on the importance scale. Assessment comments The following comments were left by the assessors: (edit · refresh) Half the reference aren't referencing anything... plus you could probably expand it a bit. Almost a B.--Wizardman 04:41, 11 February 2007 (UTC) Rating 12th Feb 2007 I've rated this B class as it seems to meet the standard as of the 12th of Feb 2007. Some notes though Lead is too short and needs to summarise the article better a bit of an minor issue in the references. Walker 1994, P.xx is more usually formatted Walker C. (1994) p.xx . AC/DC - Bonfire needs an ISBN Needs editing for flow and conciseness. After the Valentines broke up in 1970, Scott joined the band, Fraternity. Fraternity released two albums and some singles, gaining moderate success, but the group went into hiatus in 1973. could be When the Valentines broke up in 1970 Scott joined the band Fraternity, who had moderate success releasing two albums and some singles before going into hiatus in 1973. and full dates eg:July 9 1946 should be wikilinked for date preferences to work a few too many sentences/paragraphs starting In <date> x happenned - these don't tend to read well after the first few. Apart from those issues well done - a great read - Peripitus (Talk) 06:47, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bon version of Back in Black?

Can anyone verify if the version of "Back in Black" thats going around purportedly being the original sung by Bon Scott is real? The song was released so close after his death and the voice sounds like an amalgamation of Bon Scott and Brian Johnson.

-- It's a version by British tribute act Live/Wire.

Likely, the version sung by Joe Lynn Turner which was released on a tribute to AC/DC album called "Thunderbolt". NCC17 19:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Back in Black album lyrics

Here's a good question. Did Angus and Malcolm Young use ANY of Bon Scott's lyrics for the album Back in Black?...Personally I don't think so but there is some evidence. Such as the double entendres that Scott loved to use so much on the tracks "You Shook Me All Night Long" and "Let Me Put my Love into You."

[edit] French?

I doubt very much that Bon was well versed in French, as the trivia section states. In the "Let There be Rock" concert film (filmed in Paris), he can be heard making a stage announcement in French which is rudimentary at best. In fact, he only utters two or three words, and badly. Doesn't sound like a French speaker to me.

[edit] Prison time

This guy is listed on the Fremantle Prison page as having served time there. Can anyone confirm this? jmd 00:34, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure this was mentioned in the Bon Scott biography written by Clinton Walker, so yes. --Zaknrfama 20:38, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

• • I just wonder then, for what it was that he was interned. The article mentions that he was charged with possession of marijauana, but I doubt anyone would get a prison term for that. jmd

He stole some petrol and a few other assorted items. NCC17 19:31, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

He also lied to police about his address and gave a false alibis. Captanpluto123 06:20, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] picture

how about a picture?

some googling finds.. http://www.tattoos-by-design.co.uk/Celebrities/images/acdc3.jpg

[edit] Fraternity albums

"My Old Man's A Groovy Old Man" was not a Fraternity album, but a Valentines song. Fraternity's albums were "Livestock" and "Flaming Galah". Bretonbanquet 00:17, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vulgarity

When it lists his crimes, it claims " For unlawful carnal knowledge" , ala Van Halen. album name

This seems absurd. Is it?

See Carnal knowledge. Unlawful relates to the fact that he was at the time underage.Ghostieguide 01:05, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Accidental Deaths

Should Bon be added to the "Accidental Deaths" Wikipedia category? Wwwhhh 07:21, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Death

I've heard two ways that Bon Scott died: Alcohol poisoning and choking to death. There are a lot of sources, and I can't really find one that would be definitively correct. I know he has a biography, so I think that would be the best place to look if anyone wants to.

Check his death certificate, he died of alcohol poisoning. http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/basics/g/acute.htm Captanpluto123 06:31, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External Links

Any editing of the external links should be discussed on this talk page. Anonymous edits will be reported as vandals.NCC17 20:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

• Profile page by Albert Music
• Profile page by Atlantic Records
• Profile page by Epic Records
• Bon Scott Club
• Western Australian Bon Scott Fan Club
• Jeff's "Bon Scott" Fan site

[edit] Progressive Rock??

In the Background Information box under Genre(s) it lists Progressive Rock in addition to Hard Rock and Rock & Roll. I have been a ProgRock enthusiast for many years and have never thought Bon Scott or AC/DC to be Prog in any relevant sense. Does anyone have any evidence as to why Bon Scott would be included in the ProgRock genre? This is not to criticize Bon Scott, it is merely to state that I've heard no evidence that he had done any significant quantity of Prog, if any at all. 75.14.27.80 16:11, 2 January 2007 (UTC)JAC

Hi, before joining AC/DC, Scott played drums and sung in a few bands, one of these is the prog rock band Fraternity. Check out these links:

• [1] "Immediately after the split of The Valentines in early 1970, Bon changed tack and joined the Adelaide-based progressive rock band Fraternity, who won the 1971 Hoadley's Battle of the Sounds. Fraternity are best remembered for their version of the classic Blackfeather track "Seasons Of Change."
• [2] "A stint fronting Sydney prog / blues band Fraternity for two albums and an ill fated English tour was last port of call prior to fielding the call to audition for AC/DC."

Cheers. No-Bullet (Talk • Contribs) 23:02, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I would agree that Fraternity were Prog - a quick listen to "Livestock" and it's clear. It might have just been a phase, but for a few years in the early 70s, Bon was certainly associated with what we now call Prog Rock. Bretonbanquet 23:42, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] GA review

Apologies, but I'm going to have to fail the article until some concerns are addressed.

1. There are quite a few commas where seperate sentences could exist. ie. "In this period, Scott started singing in a band named Mount Lofty Rangers, which was formed by other ex-Fraternity members, however, after leaving a rehearsal with Mount Lofty Rangers, Scott got into a motorcycle accident, suffered serious injuries and subsequently left the band." Looking through the article, there are a LOT of commas, and some of those could easily be gotten rid of.
2. The lead needs some cleanup. It seems choppy.
3. I don't think there is any need to have album years in brackets after teir names, ie. "albums Let There Be Rock (1977) and Powerage (1978)"
4. Correct me if I'm wrong, but is the discography section really needed? If it was solo work, then I'd understand, but it all seems to just be information that can easily be found in the AC/DC or other group articles. I checked some other musician GAs and none of them have similar sections.
5. In many cases, the article shifts over to being more of an AC/DC bio as opposed to Bon Scott bio, ie. "In the following years, AC/DC gained further success with their albums Let There Be Rock (1977) and Powerage (1978). The 1978 release of Powerage marked the debut of bassist Cliff Williams (who had replaced Mark Evans), and with its harder riffs, followed the blueprint set by Let There Be Rock." and "Within a few months, Currenti was replaced by Phil Rudd and Mark Evans was hired as a permanent bassist, and AC/DC began recording their second album, T.N.T., which was released in Australia in December 1975."
6. Perhaps an influences section? Bon Scott was a pretty influential musician and I'm sure there have been some artists who credited him in an interview.
7. In some cases, there is too much detail and facts seem NN, ie. "Bonfire also included a colour booklet, but the US version included a two-sided poster, a sticker, a temporary tattoo, a keychain bottle opener, and a guitar pick."

I'm sorry but I have to fail the article for the time being. I'm a huge AC/DC fan and I'dlove to see this article hit GA status. The prose needs some cleaning and I am willing to help, but doing so would mean that I couldn't re-review the article. -- Scorpion 18:05, 28 February 2007 (UTC)