Talk:Bon Jovi

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[edit] Birthplace

I believe Jon was born in Perth Amboy, N.J on March 2nd 1962.

Why haven't they toured the last two albums in Australia?? They've had just as much success here as they've had anywhere else in the world. Does anyone know why?? No smart ass comments either please. Thanks. Adam.T -West. Aust. 08:14, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

No mention of his birthplace or birth date in a biography? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.21.176.141 (talk) 01:20, 25 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Critical acclaim?

The article often refers to the significant critical acclaim for this or that album. What critics? Any references?

As far as I am aware, Bon Jovi is right up there with the most critically disclaimed bands of all time.

- Is this a joke? Check out the list of awards etc, I see you didn't sign your comment either..wonder why... TheMongoose 14:45, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

Industry awards aren't critical acclaim... critics make critical acclaim - something Bon Jovi has received very little of...

Fair enough, but you're still talking shit (and still refusing to sign your comments I see) TheMongoose 15:58, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

If the anonymous user is "talking shit", why did you say "fair enough"? Either we have sources for the statement that they have critical acclaim, or we remove the text. Verifiability is not optional, though it can be deferred in the interest of building new articles. Please remember to be civil with other editors. -- nae'blis 18:31, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough on the point that awards don't count. There's plenty of sources for the statement, check out mtv.com vh1.com etc etc.. TheMongoose 16:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

Hey I'm the anonymous user. My name's David, and it's anonymous only cause I don't have an account. I'm new here and not really sure of the conventions. I was just browsing and thought I'd express my opinion to improve the accuracy of the article... not sure what warranted abuse... I don't think mainstream TV stations have much claim to critical kudos, but even if they did, the substantial amount of negative press should not be completely swept under the carpet. At the very best, Bon Jovi’s critical status is "mixed", rather than consistently acclaimed. No need to get personal, I've got nothing against you if the band you like doesn't have much cred with critics. Don't be a hater!

By the way, if you're interested in a reference to an actual critic, here's a citation from a review by Jimmy Guterman, in Rolling Stone:"Bon Jovi's band is barely functional: guitar solos pop up like afterthoughts, bass lines whine like spoiled children, and Jon Bon Jovi's voice is double- and triple-tracked in halfhearted attempts to cloak its blandness ... Jon Bon Jovi and his band serve up condescending sentiment, reducing every emotional statement to a barefaced cliché – either because they think that's all their audience can comprehend or because that's all they can comprehend. On Slippery When Wet, Bon Jovi sounds like bad fourth-generation metal, a smudgy Xerox of Quiet Riot." Please don't shoot the messenger! - David.

[edit] Discography and certification questions

I'm running on incomplete data for approximate sales of the albums. I'm relying on Gold/Platium certification data from the RIAA, this is both generally out of date and will be artificially low when international sales are taken into account. Data for O.W.N. and Bounce are not yet availible, though Bon Jovi is saying 160,000 for Bounce's first week. nknight 21:54 Oct 24, 2002 (UTC)

64.175.250.138, is there any particular reason you deleted Crossroad from the discography? I'm readding it for now. nknight 14:04 Nov 22, 2002 (UTC)

[edit] 2005 single

An editor named Xinger has repeatedly added a table to include just the latest Bon Jovi single, Have A Nice Day. This single should be listed just like all the rest, in an organized column underneath the title of its album. Sebastian Prospero 01:21, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Original means not on any prior release

83.23.217.83 added You Give Love a Bad Name from Jay & Silent Bob Strike Back to the "Original songs appear on" section of the discography on Oct 22, 2005. It was Bad Medicine that appears in that movie/on that soundtrack, but regardless neither of the songs belong in that section because they were previously released on proper Bon Jovi albums.

I'm removing it, until someone can give a good reason the correct song should be displayed.

[edit] Worldwide sales

Can Somebody write Total sale for every album?

[edit] I want to be loved Chart position

Someone added "I Want To Be Loved (with Frans Builder)" with some impressively high chart positions recently. I've been unable to discovery any kind of data to back this up - including on billboards own website, which should in theory list it at number one if that were true. And who is Frans Builder, and why is his name associated with the song?

Not saying it's not true, I'm just saying, it's all news to me, and I'd be interested to find out where that information was pulled from.

-- Begemotike

I've removed Frans. Wasted Time R 10:59, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] One more?

[edit] "#1 EU"

This means nothing - there is no "European chart" bar ones made up by averaging sales across EU member states - or in the case of MTV Europe, their target areas. This should be replaced with the actual countries in Europe where the albums were number one or just removed. --Kiand 13:02, 20 May 2006 (UTC) Bold text

[edit] Tagging

I've tagged the article for sounding like a review and for being unreferenced. Naysie 00:40, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bon Jovi not Hard Rock

I don't know why people always revert it but Bon Jovi is obviously not a Hard Rock band. AC/DC is a Hard Rock band, Metallica is a Hard Rock band. What do they have in common? Nothing at all. And this article is way too biased. Sounds like a Zine article. Virus of Profanity 16:31, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Their inclusion in the genre is well referenced. Removing it is POV. 156.34.142.110 17:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC)