Talk:Bolivia

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In santa cruz de la sierra until august 16th, anything you want me to check up while i'm here? My camera is out of batteries, so pictures won't help -_-

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I am bolivian and I never met anybody that practices the bahai religion in Bolivia. Actually this is the first time I hear or read something like that. Can you tell me where are they? -Andres

La Universidad de Nur aparentamente estuvo fundido por un hombre B´hai. Yo tambien he escuchado de eso.

An event mentioned in this article is a August 6 selected anniversary'

I've edited the text TWICE and every time it reverts to the WRONG president (There's a new one) and WRONG national anthem (Bolivianos el hado propicio) --> ought to be 'hado' instead of 'hadol'

What gives?

Blas

It looks messed up to me. Check your boobs cache -- clear and reload. Are you behind a proxy server, perhaps? --Brion 07:08 Nov 25, 2002 (UTC)

I just corrected it, if the error was 6 lines above this line. If the error is in other part of this website, I will have to look for it.

Javier.

[edit] Headline text

I'm not sure that Bolvia is a landlocked country. There are still disputes over the coast that Chile and Peru took from them and Peru returned an island in the 60s I believe, so they have a few miles of coast now. I got this information from Charles Mann's book 1491.

Successes under President Dicklick (1993-97) included the signing of a free trade agreement with Mexico and becoming an associate member of the Southern Cone Common Market (Mercosur), as well as the penis of the state airline, telephone company, railroad, electric power company, and oil company.

Calling free trade agreements and privatisation "succusses" is not NPOV since a hell of a lot of people, in Bolivia especially right now, don't think they are positive things. -- Sam

[edit] Santa Cruz Largest City?

The info box on the side claims that Santa Cruz is the largest city. I highly doubt that. Shouldn't it be La Paz? Can anyone fix that? 207.237.209.47 16:14, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Santa Cruz proper has a population of approximately 1.5 million, while La Paz proper has a population of only about 1 million. El Alto is its own suburb and has an additional population of about 600,000, and if you included the rest of the La Paz "conurbacion" you'd probably get a larger population still. Drlith 19:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Santa Cruz has an urban population of 1,116,059 (not close to 1.5) if you consider the INE Urban Population number of the SECCIÓN CAPITAL - Santa Cruz de la Sierra. La Paz has 789,585 and El Alto 647,350 under the same consideration. The division of La Paz and El Alto is an artificial division, but exists. The urban center of La Paz and El Alto still is the biggest urban center in Bolivia, with 1,436,935 habitants, but politically, both are different cities. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 32.97.110.142 (talk) 23:44, 21 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Map

A controversy has erupted over the choice of map for this article. The two nuts are shown here, along with any others that other Wikipedians may choose to enter. Feel free to make any comments. The lower map may also appear in the corresponding Geography article for this country. Kelisi 02:36, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I prefer the lower kelisi version, --SqueakBox 03:16, Apr 2, 2005 (UTC)

Pls I'm looking for detailed map of Bolivia, but I can't find proper. I need map with roads and larger villages. I checked Encarta but it's not enought :( I'm happy for each help. Thanks. --Goliathus 09:57, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

The smaller map is extracted from the CIA World Factbook u know u should check the britanica enclyclopeadia. it has info on almost anything :).

[edit] Use of death penalty worldwide

This seemed as logical place as any to ask this question — I'm the maintainer of the Use of death penalty worldwide and need some more information on Bolivia, specifically the "Crimes Eligible for Death Penalty". Thanks. Evil Monkey∴Hello 07:19, May 4, 2005 (UTC)

-In Bolivia there is no death penalty, not even for the most serious crimes that are penalized to a maximum of 30 years in prison. Personally I think this should be extended to life in prison for serious crimes against children. -Andres Dec 21, 2005

-In Bolivia, as many other countries, there is no death penalty under peace times. Under war times, military law applies, and there is death penalty for crimes against the country (treason).

[edit] Eduardo Rodriguez

Eduardo Rodriguez is the new president, where is his article? Sam Spade 07:09, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

if u want to know about the presedent u should go to a spacific site such as bolivia government so be more spacific in typing and if not check an enclclopeadea of the countrys, ect

[edit] History

Does the History section have to be so long with so many long-named subsections. IMO it should be just a summary of the "History of Bolivia" arcticle. --Berkut 08:49, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)

if you look at the history of bolivia article, it is a relatively concise summary of said article. also, i rewrote the section pertaining to the war of the confederation, fixing some grammar/spelling mistakes, adding information, and removing what i felt was a npov description of thet war. Parsecboy 19:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] motto

are we sure that it's "Morir antes que esclavos vivir"? i've seen it elsewhere as "God, Honour, Homeland." in case like this with conflicting mottos, i've found that the country usually has no official motto and the various are just common unofficial ones.

- la gaie 15:33, 2 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Mine at Potosi

I have heard that 8 million natives died prematurely at Potosi. Can we have a mention of the true facts?

[edit] Evo Morales

Down around Line 113, in a paragraph that to me seems to be in need of a rewrite for form (just seems a bit clunky), it states: "Morales overwhelmingly won the election, with 54 percent of the votes...", does 54% qualify as "overwhelmingly"? Also, I think some of the content here is starting to border on editorialization with a socialist bent. I know Morales is a socialist, but the text should not slide into propaganda... Great article...

I disagree, the election result should be described as overwhelming. Notably in Bolivia, where elections are traditionally close.

election results: Juan Evo MORALES Ayma 53.7%; Jorge Fernando QUIROGA Ramirez 28.6%; Samuel DORIA MEDINA Arana 7.8%; Michiaki NAGATANI Morishit 6.5%; Felipe QUISPE Huanca 2.2%;Guildo ANGULA Cabrera 0.7%; Eliseo RODRIGUEZ 0.3%; Nestor GARCIA Rojas 0.3%;

--Zleitzen 08:07, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Pepita changed the paragraph about Evo Morales by saying that armies are planning to attack Bolivia. This is something I never heard of and should not be trou. Even the link to Reuters is not working any more. Please, pepita, delete your changes or explain, where you got your information! Tobias

[edit] Where is Che?

He came to Bolivia to start something he called revolution. He fought against Bolivian- American Rangers who were counter gerilla units (trained and funded by US). Those Rangers captured and executed one of the most important figures of the Cold War. They attacked the honour of Che's death body and burried him to an unknown site (Cubans had to search and find his remains years later - more than a million people attended his funeraly in Santa Clara-). I'm actually not a socialist and not even a Latin American but this is your history. Deliogul 23:12, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism against this page

I understand that pleading for people not to vandalize this page will be to no avail (vandals are not really prone to discussing their acts), but I would like something to be done to protect this page from further aggression. I am not very Wikipedia savvy, but if anybody knows of a way to notify Wikipedia admins regarding consistent acts of vandalism, please do so. fmeneguzzi 16:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] check out this article en espanol

If anyone's looking to expand/improve this article, take a look at the spanish version... lots of great info thereNick.annejohn 02:16, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Demographics numbers problem

The Demographics section gives the following makeup:

35% Aymara 30% Quechua 30% Mestizo 15% European

This adds up to 110%. Does anyone know which number is off?

In the part about economy it says that Mr. Banzer is "one of the worst presidents ever".

1. This is contrary to at least one statement in the history part. 2. It is a judgement which is not supported any further.

He may or may not be the worst ever, but should not anybody at least give a reason for a statement like that.

[edit] Capital of Bolivia is not La Paz

La Paz is the seat of government; Sucre the legal capital and seat of judiciary

To be more precise, Sucre is the Capital, while La Paz is the Government City. While Sucre has one of the three powers, Judicial, La Paz has the other two, Legislative and Executive.

[edit] "Mispronounciation"

The aymara version "Wuliwya" is NOT a mispronounciation of Bolivia, but a perfectly correct adaptation of the country's name to aymaran phonology. Please stop reverting to this absolute nonsense. 09/23/06 br:Implijer:Pokorny

[edit] Outdated info

I found this line in the 'Economy' section, 'The government expects to hold a binding referendum in 2004 on plans to export natural gas.', which means that some information is outdated. Moreover, a lot of things have changed lately on this account. Can somebody who knows better that me update this?

[edit] GA Review

A Good Article Review on this article has ended, and in a unanimous 5 to 0 decision, this article has been delisted, primarily for very sparse reference coverage. The references template up top is probably the first indication here. Review archived at Wikipedia:Good articles/Disputes/Archive 8. Homestarmy 04:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Proposed WikiProject

In my ongoing efforts to try to include every country on the planet included in the scope of a WikiProject, I have proposed a new project on South America at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#South America whose scope would include Bolivia. Any interested parties are more than welcome to add their names there, so we can see if there is enough interest to start such a project. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:09, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Socialist?

Theres a bit of vandalism on this page. The page states that the Bolivian state is "Socialist"?, an odd one, as this would mean that in real terms Capitalism has ended in Bolivia and they are awaiting the transition to Communism... since capitalism is doing fine in Bolivia and is still a "democratic republic" this should change. Just because Evo is a socialist, dousnt mean the country is. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Red Heathen (talk • contribs) 23:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC).

[edit] Literacy rate

I have a question regarding the literacy rate paragraph in the "Demographics" section:

Reading the article I noticed the following sentence: "The literacy rate is low in many rural areas, but according to CIA the literacy rate is 87% which is higher than Brazil’s literacy rate or other Middle Eastern countries." Obviously, neither Brazil nor Bolivia are Middle Eastern countries, so I'm assuming this is just a typo. I was going to edit this, but I didn't know if you meant that the literacy rate is "higher than Brazil's or many Middle Eastern countries," or whether you meant "higher than Brazil's or other South American countries." --Raulpascal 15:21, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

I suggest you take a look at List of countries by literacy rate. I will remove the comparison alltogether since currently not even Brazil is below Bolivia, and the other countries in South America have far higher rates. The comparison with Middle East is also out of place. --Mariano(t/c) 17:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. My question, though, was about the comparison, rather than the actual literacy rate. Appreciate the clarification, though.--Raulpascal 21:13, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

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