Talk:Boldog

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For a March 2005 deletion debate over this page see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Boldog


I made several changes to remove speculative information:

  1. "several" Boldogs - Tolkien never settled whether there was one or many.
  2. Great Goblin, Gothmog, Shagrat, and Gorbag could be Boldogs - They could, but at that point we could say the same of EVERY Orc. At that, we don't even know that Gothmog was an Orc at all.
  3. Boldog a title for Orc formed Maiar - Actually Tolkien said it could be a title OR a term for 'Orc formed Maiar'.
  4. Shagrat & Gorbag could have been talking about the siege of Minas Tirith - They decribe the "great Siege" as having taken place in the past, during "the bad old times"... which hardly seems to describe a recent event.
  5. War of the Ring - The war Tolkien was referring to seems more likely to be the war of the Noldor against Morgoth than the War of the Ring... amongst other things there are several references to Boldog in the older war and none in the later.
  6. Orcish immortality? - A complicated issue which is more properly addressed on the main Orc page or even its own sub-page thereof.