Talk:Boiled leather

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[edit] Boiled???

Why is this article called 'boiled leather' over cuir bouilli? And what are the sources for the methodology involving boiling?

I only have a reference refuting such a suggestion:

Nicolle, David, 'Jawshan, Cuirie and Coats-of-Plates: An Alternative Line of Development for Hardened Leather Armour', in Companion to Medieval Arms and Armour, edited by David Nicolle; UK: The Boydell Press, p 180:

David Nicolle (an established expert in medieval military subjects) points out that it is not boiled (which would destroy it) or oiled (which would soften it). It was in fact soaked in cold water, then dried (or heated) in a mould. Bouilli, he suggests, might refer to its waterproofing with molten wax.

Nicolle refers to a study by J W Waterer (Leather and the Warrior, Museum of Leathercraft, 1981). Does anyone have access to it? Or any other sources? Gwinva 17:24, 2 March 2007 (UTC)