Talk:BMI Chart (height 150 to 174 cm)

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This article was nominated for deletion on September 12, 2006. The result of the discussion was NO CONSENSUS TO DELETE.

This table was calculated with a perl script written by me: The following script will print the body of a BMI table to the screen (must have perl installed on the computer). This is not exactly the script that was used to make the page, but it is rather similar.

#! usr/bin/perl

# bmi_1
# 16 August 2006   11.30 pm
my $kg;
my $m;
my $m2;
my $bmi;
my $space = "";

# heading
print  " Height = "; # left side filler
for ($m = 1.50; $m < 2.01; $m = $m + 0.02)
  {
   printf ("%4d ",$m*100 );
  }
print "\n\n";

# body   print "\n"
for ($kg = 140; $kg > 20; $kg = $kg -1)
{
printf ("%4d Kg |",$kg); # left side wt chart
for ($m = 1.50; $m < 2.01; $m = $m + 0.02)
  {
          
   $m2 = $m * $m;   
   $bmi = $kg/$m2;
   if ($bmi < 9.95){$space = " ";}
   printf "$space%.1f ",$bmi;
   $space = "";       
  }
printf (" | %3d Kg",$kg ); # rigit side wt chart

print "\n";  
}
# footing
print "\n\n";
print  " Height = "; # left side filler
for ($m = 1.50; $m < 2.01; $m = $m + 0.02)
  {
   printf ("%4d ",$m*100 );
  }

Contents 1 CSD 2 Further developemnt 3 Readers expectations 4 Readability

[edit] CSD

Unencyclopedic seems not to be a criterion for speedy deletion, nor does this article seem to meet the other criteria. I am removing the tag. I am not commenting on whether this is an appropriate article (because I am not too sure). Thincat 11:45, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I don't think that this should be deleted until an alternative appropriate freely licensed BMI graphical chart is available - and possibly not even then. The contents are useful, and pertient to the article..--TimSmall 13:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

I am always looking up BMI's at work. I feel that this is a useful resourse. I can easily make additional charts for 126 - 148 cm and 176 - 200 cm heights. I can also easily make charts for feet & inches and stones & pounds. All the calculations done with a perl script. It might go better in a table. If is was presented in a pdf, a svg or another schematic it would be more difficult to vandalise. Colours might be useful, but it is a wikipedia policy that colours of data should not be important to the data in case they are presented in a black and white format. It is appropriately linked to the BMI page and I feel that this page should not be deleted. Snowman 09:22, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Further developemnt

In the fullness of time perhaps the presentation of the cart will be improved by a variety of editors. At the present time it is a stub and any development to improve the page is welcome. I feel that it is too early to delete the page, as has been suggested. Snowman 13:00, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Readers expectations

I guess that readers who look up BMI, would expect to see a BMI table or tables. Snowman 14:22, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

However, one (minor) complaint is that very few people weigh 140kg, the largest weight shown, but more people are over 174cm, and this table is no good for them. Could the table be changed to reflect this, by showing heights up to, say, 188cm? --Christhebull 18:45, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Readability

I don't think this article is very readable at the moment. If we are to have a large table of values we should at least make a table (!) out of them, and why not add a little color also? For example (with WHO's classification):

Height =	150	152	154	156	158	160	162	164	166	168	170	172	174	cm
Height =	59.1	59.8	60.6	61.4	62.2	63.0	63.8	64.6	65.4	66.1	66.9	67.7	68.5	in
140 kg	62.2	60.6	59.0	57.5	56.1	54.7	53.3	52.1	50.8	49.6	48.4	47.3	46.2	140 kg
139 kg	61.8	60.2	58.6	57.1	55.7	54.3	53.0	51.7	50.4	49.2	48.1	47.0	45.9	139 kg
138 kg	61.3	59.7	58.2	56.7	55.3	53.9	52.6	51.3	50.1	48.9	47.8	46.6	45.6	138 kg
137 kg	60.9	59.3	57.8	56.3	54.9	53.5	52.2	50.9	49.7	48.5	47.4	46.3	45.3	137 kg
136 kg	60.4	58.9	57.3	55.9	54.5	53.1	51.8	50.6	49.4	48.2	47.1	46.0	44.9	136 kg
135 kg	60.0	58.4	56.9	55.5	54.1	52.7	51.4	50.2	49.0	47.8	46.7	45.6	44.6	135 kg
134 kg	59.6	58.0	56.5	55.1	53.7	52.3	51.1	49.8	48.6	47.5	46.4	45.3	44.3	134 kg
133 kg	59.1	57.6	56.1	54.7	53.3	52.0	50.7	49.4	48.3	47.1	46.0	45.0	43.9	133 kg
132 kg	58.7	57.1	55.7	54.2	52.9	51.6	50.3	49.1	47.9	46.8	45.7	44.6	43.6	132 kg
131 kg	58.2	56.7	55.2	53.8	52.5	51.2	49.9	48.7	47.5	46.4	45.3	44.3	43.3	131 kg
130 kg	57.8	56.3	54.8	53.4	52.1	50.8	49.5	48.3	47.2	46.1	45.0	43.9	42.9	130 kg
129 kg	57.3	55.8	54.4	53.0	51.7	50.4	49.2	48.0	46.8	45.7	44.6	43.6	42.6	129 kg
128 kg	56.9	55.4	54.0	52.6	51.3	50.0	48.8	47.6	46.5	45.4	44.3	43.3	42.3	128 kg
127 kg	56.4	55.0	53.6	52.2	50.9	49.6	48.4	47.2	46.1	45.0	43.9	42.9	41.9	127 kg
126 kg	56.0	54.5	53.1	51.8	50.5	49.2	48.0	46.8	45.7	44.6	43.6	42.6	41.6	126 kg
125 kg	55.6	54.1	52.7	51.4	50.1	48.8	47.6	46.5	45.4	44.3	43.3	42.3	41.3	125 kg
124 kg	55.1	53.7	52.3	51.0	49.7	48.4	47.2	46.1	45.0	43.9	42.9	41.9	41.0	124 kg
123 kg	54.7	53.2	51.9	50.5	49.3	48.0	46.9	45.7	44.6	43.6	42.6	41.6	40.6	123 kg
122 kg	54.2	52.8	51.4	50.1	48.9	47.7	46.5	45.4	44.3	43.2	42.2	41.2	40.3	122 kg
121 kg	53.8	52.4	51.0	49.7	48.5	47.3	46.1	45.0	43.9	42.9	41.9	40.9	40.0	121 kg
120 kg	53.3	51.9	50.6	49.3	48.1	46.9	45.7	44.6	43.5	42.5	41.5	40.6	39.6	120 kg
119 kg	52.9	51.5	50.2	48.9	47.7	46.5	45.3	44.2	43.2	42.2	41.2	40.2	39.3	119 kg
118 kg	52.4	51.1	49.8	48.5	47.3	46.1	45.0	43.9	42.8	41.8	40.8	39.9	39.0	118 kg
117 kg	52.0	50.6	49.3	48.1	46.9	45.7	44.6	43.5	42.5	41.5	40.5	39.5	38.6	117 kg
116 kg	51.6	50.2	48.9	47.7	46.5	45.3	44.2	43.1	42.1	41.1	40.1	39.2	38.3	116 kg
115 kg	51.1	49.8	48.5	47.3	46.1	44.9	43.8	42.8	41.7	40.7	39.8	38.9	38.0	115 kg
114 kg	50.7	49.3	48.1	46.8	45.7	44.5	43.4	42.4	41.4	40.4	39.4	38.5	37.7	114 kg
113 kg	50.2	48.9	47.6	46.4	45.3	44.1	43.1	42.0	41.0	40.0	39.1	38.2	37.3	113 kg
112 kg	49.8	48.5	47.2	46.0	44.9	43.7	42.7	41.6	40.6	39.7	38.8	37.9	37.0	112 kg
111 kg	49.3	48.0	46.8	45.6	44.5	43.4	42.3	41.3	40.3	39.3	38.4	37.5	36.7	111 kg
110 kg	48.9	47.6	46.4	45.2	44.1	43.0	41.9	40.9	39.9	39.0	38.1	37.2	36.3	110 kg
109 kg	48.4	47.2	46.0	44.8	43.7	42.6	41.5	40.5	39.6	38.6	37.7	36.8	36.0	109 kg
108 kg	48.0	46.7	45.5	44.4	43.3	42.2	41.2	40.2	39.2	38.3	37.4	36.5	35.7	108 kg
107 kg	47.6	46.3	45.1	44.0	42.9	41.8	40.8	39.8	38.8	37.9	37.0	36.2	35.3	107 kg
106 kg	47.1	45.9	44.7	43.6	42.5	41.4	40.4	39.4	38.5	37.6	36.7	35.8	35.0	106 kg
105 kg	46.7	45.4	44.3	43.1	42.1	41.0	40.0	39.0	38.1	37.2	36.3	35.5	34.7	105 kg
104 kg	46.2	45.0	43.9	42.7	41.7	40.6	39.6	38.7	37.7	36.8	36.0	35.2	34.4	104 kg
103 kg	45.8	44.6	43.4	42.3	41.3	40.2	39.2	38.3	37.4	36.5	35.6	34.8	34.0	103 kg
102 kg	45.3	44.1	43.0	41.9	40.9	39.8	38.9	37.9	37.0	36.1	35.3	34.5	33.7	102 kg
101 kg	44.9	43.7	42.6	41.5	40.5	39.5	38.5	37.6	36.7	35.8	34.9	34.1	33.4	101 kg
100 kg	44.4	43.3	42.2	41.1	40.1	39.1	38.1	37.2	36.3	35.4	34.6	33.8	33.0	100 kg
99 kg	44.0	42.8	41.7	40.7	39.7	38.7	37.7	36.8	35.9	35.1	34.3	33.5	32.7	99 kg
98 kg	43.6	42.4	41.3	40.3	39.3	38.3	37.3	36.4	35.6	34.7	33.9	33.1	32.4	98 kg
97 kg	43.1	42.0	40.9	39.9	38.9	37.9	37.0	36.1	35.2	34.4	33.6	32.8	32.0	97 kg
96 kg	42.7	41.6	40.5	39.4	38.5	37.5	36.6	35.7	34.8	34.0	33.2	32.4	31.7	96 kg
95 kg	42.2	41.1	40.1	39.0	38.1	37.1	36.2	35.3	34.5	33.7	32.9	32.1	31.4	95 kg
94 kg	41.8	40.7	39.6	38.6	37.7	36.7	35.8	34.9	34.1	33.3	32.5	31.8	31.0	94 kg
93 kg	41.3	40.3	39.2	38.2	37.3	36.3	35.4	34.6	33.7	33.0	32.2	31.4	30.7	93 kg
92 kg	40.9	39.8	38.8	37.8	36.9	35.9	35.1	34.2	33.4	32.6	31.8	31.1	30.4	92 kg
91 kg	40.4	39.4	38.4	37.4	36.5	35.5	34.7	33.8	33.0	32.2	31.5	30.8	30.1	91 kg
90 kg	40.0	39.0	37.9	37.0	36.1	35.2	34.3	33.5	32.7	31.9	31.1	30.4	29.7	90 kg
89 kg	39.6	38.5	37.5	36.6	35.7	34.8	33.9	33.1	32.3	31.5	30.8	30.1	29.4	89 kg
88 kg	39.1	38.1	37.1	36.2	35.3	34.4	33.5	32.7	31.9	31.2	30.4	29.7	29.1	88 kg
87 kg	38.7	37.7	36.7	35.7	34.9	34.0	33.2	32.3	31.6	30.8	30.1	29.4	28.7	87 kg
86 kg	38.2	37.2	36.3	35.3	34.4	33.6	32.8	32.0	31.2	30.5	29.8	29.1	28.4	86 kg
85 kg	37.8	36.8	35.8	34.9	34.0	33.2	32.4	31.6	30.8	30.1	29.4	28.7	28.1	85 kg
84 kg	37.3	36.4	35.4	34.5	33.6	32.8	32.0	31.2	30.5	29.8	29.1	28.4	27.7	84 kg
83 kg	36.9	35.9	35.0	34.1	33.2	32.4	31.6	30.9	30.1	29.4	28.7	28.1	27.4	83 kg
82 kg	36.4	35.5	34.6	33.7	32.8	32.0	31.2	30.5	29.8	29.1	28.4	27.7	27.1	82 kg
81 kg	36.0	35.1	34.2	33.3	32.4	31.6	30.9	30.1	29.4	28.7	28.0	27.4	26.8	81 kg
80 kg	35.6	34.6	33.7	32.9	32.0	31.2	30.5	29.7	29.0	28.3	27.7	27.0	26.4	80 kg
79 kg	35.1	34.2	33.3	32.5	31.6	30.9	30.1	29.4	28.7	28.0	27.3	26.7	26.1	79 kg
78 kg	34.7	33.8	32.9	32.1	31.2	30.5	29.7	29.0	28.3	27.6	27.0	26.4	25.8	78 kg
77 kg	34.2	33.3	32.5	31.6	30.8	30.1	29.3	28.6	27.9	27.3	26.6	26.0	25.4	77 kg
76 kg	33.8	32.9	32.0	31.2	30.4	29.7	29.0	28.3	27.6	26.9	26.3	25.7	25.1	76 kg
75 kg	33.3	32.5	31.6	30.8	30.0	29.3	28.6	27.9	27.2	26.6	26.0	25.4	24.8	75 kg
74 kg	32.9	32.0	31.2	30.4	29.6	28.9	28.2	27.5	26.9	26.2	25.6	25.0	24.4	74 kg
73 kg	32.4	31.6	30.8	30.0	29.2	28.5	27.8	27.1	26.5	25.9	25.3	24.7	24.1	73 kg
72 kg	32.0	31.2	30.4	29.6	28.8	28.1	27.4	26.8	26.1	25.5	24.9	24.3	23.8	72 kg
71 kg	31.6	30.7	29.9	29.2	28.4	27.7	27.1	26.4	25.8	25.2	24.6	24.0	23.5	71 kg
70 kg	31.1	30.3	29.5	28.8	28.0	27.3	26.7	26.0	25.4	24.8	24.2	23.7	23.1	70 kg
69 kg	30.7	29.9	29.1	28.4	27.6	27.0	26.3	25.7	25.0	24.4	23.9	23.3	22.8	69 kg
68 kg	30.2	29.4	28.7	27.9	27.2	26.6	25.9	25.3	24.7	24.1	23.5	23.0	22.5	68 kg
67 kg	29.8	29.0	28.3	27.5	26.8	26.2	25.5	24.9	24.3	23.7	23.2	22.6	22.1	67 kg
66 kg	29.3	28.6	27.8	27.1	26.4	25.8	25.1	24.5	24.0	23.4	22.8	22.3	21.8	66 kg
65 kg	28.9	28.1	27.4	26.7	26.0	25.4	24.8	24.2	23.6	23.0	22.5	22.0	21.5	65 kg
64 kg	28.4	27.7	27.0	26.3	25.6	25.0	24.4	23.8	23.2	22.7	22.1	21.6	21.1	64 kg
63 kg	28.0	27.3	26.6	25.9	25.2	24.6	24.0	23.4	22.9	22.3	21.8	21.3	20.8	63 kg
62 kg	27.6	26.8	26.1	25.5	24.8	24.2	23.6	23.1	22.5	22.0	21.5	21.0	20.5	62 kg
61 kg	27.1	26.4	25.7	25.1	24.4	23.8	23.2	22.7	22.1	21.6	21.1	20.6	20.1	61 kg
60 kg	26.7	26.0	25.3	24.7	24.0	23.4	22.9	22.3	21.8	21.3	20.8	20.3	19.8	60 kg
59 kg	26.2	25.5	24.9	24.2	23.6	23.0	22.5	21.9	21.4	20.9	20.4	19.9	19.5	59 kg
58 kg	25.8	25.1	24.5	23.8	23.2	22.7	22.1	21.6	21.0	20.5	20.1	19.6	19.2	58 kg
57 kg	25.3	24.7	24.0	23.4	22.8	22.3	21.7	21.2	20.7	20.2	19.7	19.3	18.8	57 kg
56 kg	24.9	24.2	23.6	23.0	22.4	21.9	21.3	20.8	20.3	19.8	19.4	18.9	18.5	56 kg
55 kg	24.4	23.8	23.2	22.6	22.0	21.5	21.0	20.4	20.0	19.5	19.0	18.6	18.2	55 kg
54 kg	24.0	23.4	22.8	22.2	21.6	21.1	20.6	20.1	19.6	19.1	18.7	18.3	17.8	54 kg
53 kg	23.6	22.9	22.3	21.8	21.2	20.7	20.2	19.7	19.2	18.8	18.3	17.9	17.5	53 kg
52 kg	23.1	22.5	21.9	21.4	20.8	20.3	19.8	19.3	18.9	18.4	18.0	17.6	17.2	52 kg
51 kg	22.7	22.1	21.5	21.0	20.4	19.9	19.4	19.0	18.5	18.1	17.6	17.2	16.8	51 kg
50 kg	22.2	21.6	21.1	20.5	20.0	19.5	19.1	18.6	18.1	17.7	17.3	16.9	16.5	50 kg
49 kg	21.8	21.2	20.7	20.1	19.6	19.1	18.7	18.2	17.8	17.4	17.0	16.6	16.2	49 kg
48 kg	21.3	20.8	20.2	19.7	19.2	18.7	18.3	17.8	17.4	17.0	16.6	16.2	15.9	48 kg
47 kg	20.9	20.3	19.8	19.3	18.8	18.4	17.9	17.5	17.1	16.7	16.3	15.9	15.5	47 kg
46 kg	20.4	19.9	19.4	18.9	18.4	18.0	17.5	17.1	16.7	16.3	15.9	15.5	15.2	46 kg
45 kg	20.0	19.5	19.0	18.5	18.0	17.6	17.1	16.7	16.3	15.9	15.6	15.2	14.9	45 kg
44 kg	19.6	19.0	18.6	18.1	17.6	17.2	16.8	16.4	16.0	15.6	15.2	14.9	14.5	44 kg
43 kg	19.1	18.6	18.1	17.7	17.2	16.8	16.4	16.0	15.6	15.2	14.9	14.5	14.2	43 kg
42 kg	18.7	18.2	17.7	17.3	16.8	16.4	16.0	15.6	15.2	14.9	14.5	14.2	13.9	42 kg
41 kg	18.2	17.7	17.3	16.8	16.4	16.0	15.6	15.2	14.9	14.5	14.2	13.9	13.5	41 kg
40 kg	17.8	17.3	16.9	16.4	16.0	15.6	15.2	14.9	14.5	14.2	13.8	13.5	13.2	40 kg
39 kg	17.3	16.9	16.4	16.0	15.6	15.2	14.9	14.5	14.2	13.8	13.5	13.2	12.9	39 kg
38 kg	16.9	16.4	16.0	15.6	15.2	14.8	14.5	14.1	13.8	13.5	13.1	12.8	12.6	38 kg
37 kg	16.4	16.0	15.6	15.2	14.8	14.5	14.1	13.8	13.4	13.1	12.8	12.5	12.2	37 kg
36 kg	16.0	15.6	15.2	14.8	14.4	14.1	13.7	13.4	13.1	12.8	12.5	12.2	11.9	36 kg
35 kg	15.6	15.1	14.8	14.4	14.0	13.7	13.3	13.0	12.7	12.4	12.1	11.8	11.6	35 kg
34 kg	15.1	14.7	14.3	14.0	13.6	13.3	13.0	12.6	12.3	12.0	11.8	11.5	11.2	34 kg
33 kg	14.7	14.3	13.9	13.6	13.2	12.9	12.6	12.3	12.0	11.7	11.4	11.2	10.9	33 kg
32 kg	14.2	13.9	13.5	13.1	12.8	12.5	12.2	11.9	11.6	11.3	11.1	10.8	10.6	32 kg
31 kg	13.8	13.4	13.1	12.7	12.4	12.1	11.8	11.5	11.2	11.0	10.7	10.5	10.2	31 kg
30 kg	13.3	13.0	12.6	12.3	12.0	11.7	11.4	11.2	10.9	10.6	10.4	10.1	9.9	30 kg
29 kg	12.9	12.6	12.2	11.9	11.6	11.3	11.1	10.8	10.5	10.3	10.0	9.8	9.6	29 kg
28 kg	12.4	12.1	11.8	11.5	11.2	10.9	10.7	10.4	10.2	9.9	9.7	9.5	9.2	28 kg
27 kg	12.0	11.7	11.4	11.1	10.8	10.5	10.3	10.0	9.8	9.6	9.3	9.1	8.9	27 kg
26 kg	11.6	11.3	11.0	10.7	10.4	10.2	9.9	9.7	9.4	9.2	9.0	8.8	8.6	26 kg
Height =	150	152	154	156	158	160	162	164	166	168	170	172	174	cm
Height =	59.1	59.8	60.6	61.4	62.2	63.0	63.8	64.6	65.4	66.1	66.9	67.7	68.5	in

Key:

Underweight

Normal range

Overweight

Obese

However, what is the point of having it in an article, rather than a picture (looking like the table above)? It just puts strain on the servers. -- Woseph 16:23, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure what point you are making. The table is very good. How did you convert the lists into a table? I was thinking about making a table with a perl script, but I am interested to known how you did it. Snowman 14:35, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

I hope to add charts for other height ranges within one wk, (when I have some time). Snowman 08:59, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

Sorry for not getting back to you earlier. I just copied the text table from the article, wiki-formatted it as a table (basically replaced " " with "|") and added colors as appropriate. Patching your script (above) to generate a colored wiki-table is easy though. If we do add some colors, we should probably include the further subdivisions as well, to make it even more colorful.

The point I was making, or at least trying to make, was that a table with colors – like the one above – quickly becomes very large (in bytes). (Currently, we're at 43 kB, although this can be lowered by being clever about the coloring.) Since the content should be rather stable, I just think we could upload a picture, like a screen dump of the table, instead. A picture can also be included as a thumbnail in an article, making the article easier to read, and the tables easier to find. -- Woseph 15:14, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Couldn't you make the code more concise and able to be read in a black and white format if you used formatting for the different categories instead of colors(i.e.bold, italic, etc.)?