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[edit] Welcome

Hello Bluerfn and welcome to Wikipedia! I'm glad you've chosen to join us. This is a great project with lots of dedicated people, which might seem intimidating at times, but don't let anything discourage you. Be bold!, explore, and contribute. Try to be civil by following simple guidelines and signing your talk comments with ~~~~ but never forget that one of our central tenets is to ignore all rules.

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Thank you, Draeco for your warm welcome! AzulAokawa 05:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ICRC move/creation

Hello Azul, you told me you'd be happy to share your opinion...be careful what you wish for! For the past few months I've been writing a new International Committee of the Red Cross article. I'm finally satisfied enough to propose its move into the main namespace, though it's far from perfect. That article is at User:Draeco/ICRC, and I've proposed a move here. I hope you can take the time to give your opinion. - Draeco 18:00, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] FF12

Your "FFXII ULTIMANIA" book has several misprints. If you play the game itself, you will see that Basch's middle name is "von", not "fon". Please play the game if you do not believe me, stop changing the information just because you have bad information. Thanks. Noah 08:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied in author's talk page 私はBluerfnです 09:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
You must have an older version of the game, because in my special edition, it clearly does say "von" -- I'll have to play through it again, and take a physical picture for you w/ my camera. Once I have that, I'll make the change and we can put this matter to rest. Thanks. Noah 22:27, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
First you claim of me having a misprinted book, then bad information, now you say I have an older version of the game? Aren't you glad of claiming that everything i say is not what you desire to hear? Please, my respond is in your talk page. 私はBluerfnです 22:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
"fon" is a mispelling in some early editions of the game. I purchased my copy about 2 weeks after the intial shipment, which has the error corrected. von is the proper spelling of the word of in German. fon in German means nothing. If you notice, the letter F is right next to the letter V on the US keyboard. It was a simple mistake which has been corrected in future versions of the game. I'll get that photograph to you as soon as possible. Noah 22:45, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
I mean, you do understand that right? The spelling of "fon" has just been misinformation from the start. The word "fon" means nothing. It is simply common sense, which is why it is spelled correctly in my version of the game. Did you pre-order your game, or did you purchase a copy after the initial shipment of games from the distributor? Noah 22:47, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Replied in author's talk page. 私はBluerfnです 22:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough. We can just chalk it up to a mis-translation from the Japanese version (which had the spelling correct as von) to the American version (which has an improper spelling of fon). Noah 23:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
http://www.flora-fleur.net/basch/name.html I just love this site. Really clarifies everything. Noah slipped, and blamed the ULTIMANIA, said mine an old version, claims its german as if german exists in ivalice. what a character! von Ronsenburg, as if! 私はBluerfnです 16:31, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ivalice -- World vs. Region

Hello Blue. It's me again. The character -- you can try to edit my contention that Ivalice is a region all you want, but I will keep reverting it every 25 hours because the official NA FFXIII Website, created by SquareEnix says that Ivalice is a world (in addition to it possibly being a region). I've been around Wikipedia much longer than you have, and I don't give up easily. Just wanted to give you a heads up. Thanks. Oh, and in regards to the von/fon issue, even IMDB has it listed as von in the official actors profile. Take that as you will! Noah 05:08, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I replied in your talk page which is my last reply to you. 私はBluerfnです 04:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Moving the Ultimecia/Rinoa paragraph

Hi, I'm a new user of Wikipedia so I don't have an account, but my name is Eileen. It would be really cool if you would move the Ultimecia/Rinoa paragraph (On the Talk: List of FFVIII characters page) to Talk:Ultimecia, I've actually done that when I was talking on it to contribute to the discussion and I did reply to it. Anyway, I've heard all the Ultimecia/Rinoa stuff is being moved there (Rinoa Heartilly talk page is included) which is why I deleted it and moved it there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.142.130.18 (talk) 23:49, 28 December 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Loot Discussion on Final Fantasy XII page

I'll concur about the wordiness, and I have no problem with just removing the entire sentance.

My main point of that edit was to counteract the falsehood in the original text that you cannot buy Teleport Stones in the game. You can't at first, but later on the game there are several vendors who begin to stock them.

I've had run-ins with readers/forum people twice now and they cited this article as the reason. Since I'm only an occaisional editor here on Wiki, I didn't feel comfortable just hacking the whole thing out. I appreciate the clarity.

Thanks, Colleen "Momgamer" Hannon

64.95.188.3 22:56, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

To all editors, remember that the purpose of this section is to give a general overview of gameplay, not document every possible action in the game. 私はBluerfnです 06:43, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] vagrant story template

Character

The protagonist is Ashley Riot, a member of the Valendia Knights of the Peace (VKP) who is in pursuit of a cult leader named Sydney Losstarot. Sydney, the leader of the religious cult Müllenkamp, laid siege on Duke Bardorba's manor in search of a key and kidnapping the Lord's only son Joshua. Selected as Ashley's ally is Callo Merlose, an agent of the VKP Inquisitors. Also attempting to capture Sydney is Romeo Guildenstern of the Crimson Blades, whose mission was made without the approval of the VKP.[1] The story also presents other supporting characters complete with their own backstory.

Ashley Riot is a Riskbreaker, a militia division of the VKP responsible to upholding state's security and law. [2] Accompanying him is VKP Inquisitor Callo Merlose, though Ashley decides that she will not accompany him for her lack of combat experience.[3] Merlose, however, ended up being Sydney's hostage and in the process discovers the truth to their activities. Another Riskbreaker, Rosencrantz, also appears during Ashley's trek in Leà Monde, briefing to him the plans of the VKP, Sydney and the Cardinal, and subsequently his take on Ashley's past.

The Crimson Blades, under direct orders of Cardinal Batistum, is part of the Cardinal's Knights of the Cross in charge of seeking heretics and quelling cults.[4] Romeo Guildenstern, their leader, is described as a pious man, deeply faithful to his belief and consequently immune to the Dark's powers. Under orders of the Cardinal, he pursues Sydney along with the unquestioning Samantha, Duane, Grissom, Tieger and Neesa.[5]

Müllenkamp is a religious cult which based itself in the city of Leà Monde.[6] The city suffered a catastrophe where its population was vanquished in an earthquake.[7] The city, now filled with corpses controlled by Darkness is still believed to be cult's stronghold. Sydney and his accomplice Hardin manages to survive the pursuit of the Crimson Blade, hiding in the dead city, though Hardin sometimes doubt Sydney's intentions.

Story

The story begins with the introduction of Ashley Riot, a Riskbreaker agent of the VKP, who was sent along with the VKP Inquisitor Callo Merlose, to Duke Bardorba's manor under siege by the cult Müllenkamp. Their missions include discovering the Duke's reason to his involvement in the Müllenkamp cult's activities,[8] and to find out why the Cardinal hastily sents the Crimson Blades in search of Sydney without the VKP's authority. [9] The Crimson Blades, led by Guildenstern who is also in pursuit of Sydney, had managed to enter the Duke's manor. It served as a diversion for Ashley who manages to enter the manor undetected alone. At the doorsteps, Ashley listens as Hardin, Sydney's accomplice give order to the cultists to burn the manor and kill any hostages.[10] He manages to stop this from happening, and even manages to encounter Sydney, discovering the cult leader's intentions and powers in the process, though he did not manage to apprehend Sydney.[11] In the chaos, Sydney and Hardin escapes with the Duke's son Joshua to Leà Monde, and Ashley continues his pursuit of Sydney into the dark city.

Though his manor was laid siege, Duke Bardorba had actually retreated to his secondary residence nearby. In the morning, the Duke gave orders to a certain character, Rosencrantz, to enter the city of Leà Monde and deal with Sydney and the Crimson Blades.[12] He also orders his servants to burn the main manor in the guise of a Crimson Blade to erase the existence of a wyvern,[13] despite his family being hold hostage there. He also ensured that the Parliament will not be able to question their actions, proving his strong influence in the kingdom.[14] However, the Duke presents his softer side towards his son Joshua, and demands that nothing should happen to the boy.

Ashley and Callo arrives in Leà Monde still in pursuit of Sydney. Ashley enters the city through the underground wine chambers alone, asking Callo to stay and report to the VKP headquarters if anything should happen. While Callo returns to the surface, she encounters Sydney and was made his hostage. Ashley, unknown to the event that had unfold, continues his trek under the city, discovering about Grimoires, objects holding magical powers, and facing off a few Crimson Blades. As he journeys deeper into Leà Monde, his past begins to unfold, and 私はBluerです 07:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: basch

Hi, Bluerfn.

When you put that response in my own talk page, I admit that I was a bit dissapointed in some of the comments, because some of them "sounded a bit flustered" like you said. I found some sites where they have the Ultimania for FFXII. I can read Japanese like you and understand your Japanese as well. I learned Japanese in a few weeks when I was 15 or so. I am looking forward to working with you. To be honest, I really like FFXII and I am still playing it. I am having some trouble with the game where I have to beat Belias. Can you help me out? We know Ronsenburg is pronounced as Rosenburg in Japan and why they put an "n" to made it Ronsenburg. By the way, Bluerfn, thanks for the comments on my talk page. Good day, best wishes and regards :D --Sjones23 02:27, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Final Fantasy XII Story section

Hi, once again, Bluerfn. When your comment on the FFXII story section was shown on AxemTitanium's article that you want to rewrite the story, I was intrigued by the idea. We are editors who help each other out after all. I edited some parts of the FFXII article as well. We can do it, Bluerfn, together. It is an honor to talk to you again. Regards :D --Sjones23 20:26, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

I would be honored to help out, Bluerfn and I, as a Wikipedia editor, should be honored to help with expanding the story and adding some pictures in the FFXII article as well :D. --Sjones23 03:09, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Vagrant Story

Hey, sorry for the late reply, I'm still technically on wikibreak. I took a quick glance at it and it looks good, although I can't say for certain because I've never actually played Vagrant Story before. At any rate, it looks well referenced (were the 40 references your work?). I would suggest spinning the OST off into its own article and expanding the music section to be more general. The gameplay section could also use some citations (usually from reviews that talk about gameplay). Also, it would be nice if we could have a little more insight on the development. On the whole, the article looks like it's in good shape. As for the FFXII story section, it looks much better than it did last I saw it. Good work! Axem Titanium 20:12, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

I've never played Vagrant Story, but I think the synopsis might be too long. Try to trim any details that can be left out without taking away from a general understanding of the plot. Otherwise, it looks like a great effort. Looking forward to see the progress on XII result in an FA push :) — Deckiller 03:20, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Replied on talk pages =). 私はBluerです 03:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Your welcome :) I added some pointers to the XII talkpage; I'll start lending a hand tonight, but it's probably at least halfway there already. Spring break starts in a week, so I'll be more available then. Edit: I just realized how lame that sounded. Oh well; I'm not a beach bum :) — Deckiller 03:47, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Uhm, I don't mean to sound greedy, but, could I possibly have a barnstar? Uh, hope I didn't demand to much. 私はBluerです 06:04, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
Sure; I think these need to be handed out more often anyway. — Deckiller 14:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow! Thank you so much! My very first barnstar! 私はBluerです 03:21, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] VS/Kiltias

Hello- I'm not sure I understand what the problem was with my edits. The knights in VS wear and cross themselves with the Rood symbol that appears also as the symbol of Kilitas. Glabados is shown to be a branch of Kiltia by this extract of XII- "Several years after Kiltia's founding, Saint Ajora began a new teaching, claiming that Faram alone was the one true god, the popularity of this new sect further lessening the power of the Light." --77.99.28.91 14:16, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

I never said the knights were Kilitas, just that they used the same Rood symbol as the Kiltia of T and XII. I didn't even go so far as to say they were connected, I just mentioned the shared symbol. Which is fact, rather than speculation. Also, the XII Ultimania links the Ajora mentioned in XII with the one from FFT (although the game does that fairly obviously by itself). Considering both mentioned Ajoras being founder of Glabados is pretty much the entire crux of the timeline section, I thought it might be okay mention it in passing elsewhere...Could I, at least, restore my edit while omitting the "itself a branch of Kilita" bit? That's the only part that could be construed as speculation. --77.99.28.91 11:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
Not to clog up your history, but I just wanted to make sure my original points were not being lost here:
  • Pointed out that Kiltia of XII and T (named as such in both) and the unnamed St. Iocus religion of VS use the same symbol, the rood. I drew no connection between the two beyond that.
  • Observed that, where Kiltia is polytheistic, the unnamed religion is monotheistic, like T's Glabados. I felt it relevent to point out that Glabados is also a Kildean sect, but apparently that's speculation, so I'll not add that back if it's causing a problem.

--77.99.28.91 12:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

  • Sorry, I didn't mean XII and T, I meant XII and VS. And the XII Kiltias cross themselves with the Kiltia symbol as the devouts of St. Iocus do (the outfits of the Judge Magisters also use a modified version, but that's a bit more speculative), and I believe the XII Kiltias wear it around their necks (I'd have to check that). My intention with all this isn't to push some agenda, It's just exploring the elements of VS that link it to Ivalice at large; which is what the entire VS section aims to do. That the Kiltias of both games and the St. Iocus followers of VS all wear/make use of the Rood isn't speculative and is, indeed, one of the most obvious links between the two games.

And what do you have in mind for the article, out of interest?--77.99.28.91 11:27, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

  • I didn't realise it was a controversial issue to mention that a few religions of Ivalice used the same symbol :P Matsuno's already said they're set in the same world.

If you're already thinking of sorting out the trivia, then perhaps model the Ivalice article on the main Spira article? That allows one to explore Ivalice's religion, races, politics, geography etc. without it being fancruft (it being integral to a 'world' that's appeared several times now), and then have a seperate Locations in Final Fantasy XII/T/TA articles dealing with the more listy elements from the respective games. I suppose a seperate heading in the Ivalice article could address the fictitious nature of TA's Ivalice. --77.99.28.91 13:33, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

    • Aren't you kinda blowing this out of proportion? Surely you could've just added a citation needed tag or something. Anyway, here's a source that makes a note of several instances of the Rood symbol in VS (both Kiltia and St. Iocus. I don't have the capacity to take screenshots of XII, though). It just seemed a worthwhile point to make since it concerns A) Ivalice and B) Vagrant Story. What is supposed to go in the VS section of an Ivalice article if not things like that? It's hardly fanon when it's right there in both games. --77.99.28.91 18:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
      • I wasn't trying to antagonize you, I was just trying to understand. Sorry for my mistake. It just looked to me like if that shouldn't have been there, then the entire VS section is similarly void. Anyway, delete this off your talk page if you like. Again, I'm sorry for my mistake. I'll stay away from editing stuff like that. --77.99.28.91 18:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Invitation to Ivalice

That is really a wonderful idea and how thoughtful of you. I will be honored to help out and thanks for the invitation. :D Regards --Sjones23 02:08, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Ultimecia

Per the GFDL, we cannot delete edit histories and talkpages of merged content. The talkpage can be redirected, although it's not a big deal how it currently is. BTW, thanks :) — Deckiller 20:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Kara Umi IP socks

Because we know it's the same person, we can block their IPs for circumventing block. I'll take care of that. — Deckiller 16:03, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

I had already blocked that user. Kara Umi uses IP sockpuppets to push for his or her ways. We've established this on checkuser in the past, and Umi has been blocked for 3RR on numerous occasions. I listed the initial 3RR violation and the blocks of those two IPs were just "rolling decisions" because Umi was so obviously circumventing block. So it's not administrator abuse, don't worry :) — Deckiller 23:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Koshiva

"Koshiva" seems a better term for now, or "Shivako" if you want. "Ko" is usually a suffix in most girls' names, meaning "child". Fractyl

[edit] Races of FF Talk Page

Sorry, I had been told before that it was supposed to go at the top. Thank you for the correction!KrytenKoro 22:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
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