Talk:Blink-182/Archive 1
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pop punk revival
please leave the genre as pop punk revival. see the simple plan talk page for why we're using it to desbribe these kinds of bands--67.66.95.196 04:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Name
Uh, are you sure it's blink with a lower case b?
Yeah. blink-182. EQuintan 01:34, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
How many members?
The article says the band consists of seven members, and then goes on to list three. Are there three or seven members? Markkawika 11:04, 30 September 2005 (UTC) There is really only three members in the band. (Scott Raynor the original drummer makes 4 hommie.)
i think it started with Markus Allen Hoppus and Thomas Mathhew Delonge. They found a drummer who is Scott Raynor, then they get rid of him and got Travis Landon Barkar. Hes an awsome drummer.
- Exactly, 'hommie'! BabuBhatt 21:15, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
well kind of, not really though
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- Teah the part about Mathhew and Barkar is is a little suspect. BabuBhatt 21:33, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Hardcore my ass
Not only that, but in the article the author said that the release of their untitled record brought them back into the hardcore scene, even though they never have and probably never will be a hardcore band. I highly doubt the author of this article even knows what hardcore sounds like, and it needs to be revised. In fact, I'm gonna do that right now.
By the way, the author of this article sounds like they're in 7th grade.
blink-182 hardcore? thats a larf, compare this pop punk to a band like Casey Jones to understand. Avenged Evanfold 03:50, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
What's with the writing of this article? It starts of by saying that the band formed in 1991, yet Tom and Mark didn't meet until 92. Nice. --Vision4bg 07:39, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Tried to clean it up a bit. Lan3y - Talk 22:55, Feb 22, 2005 (UTC)
An article, not fan site
I threw out the back-and-forth about the band's possible breakup that had been dumped on top of the article - let's wait until there's an event worthy of an encyclopedia article before putting in material, please - and took out some first-person point of view. - DavidWBrooks 20:41, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Right, I have put a single sentence at the top now. I think that this should be placed in a prominent position, and together with the text at the bottom is sufficiently clear. Lan3y - Talk 21:31, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)
Ur both wrong, the met in 1990, i kno tom's nephew
sweet man have u met tom?
No original research, bub! 210.11.82.107 09:18, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Pop punk
They're pop punk. They're practically the definition of pop punk. Rhobite 00:31, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
Blink 182 are not a Pop Punk Band. Look at it Busted and Son of Dork are pop punk they have the clean guitar, pop drum beats, lyrics about childish attractions for the opposite sex, whilst Blink swear, have fast punk drumming and overdriven guitar, deading and palm muting. Think about it they are Punk Rock like Greenday (who are also not Pop Punk) and Offspring. Paladin91 18:06, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
when they won the award for best new act or whatever i quote 'thanks guys and just keep on supporting punk rock, thankyou. SO YOU ARE WRONG THEY CALL THEMSELVES PUNK ROCK. - b1link82
- Allmusicguide: [1] see "Styles". Google search [2] 62,000 hits. Please stop removing the fact that they're "pop punk". Rhobite 13:50, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
So google is right and the band members are wrong, i am not allowed to call you an idiot but if i was allowed to i would. --B1link82 13:51, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Oh, what a clever way to get around "No personal attacks". I'm sorry, but they are pop-punk. User:Rhobite is correct. Lan3y - Talk 13:57, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
i don't think anyone is teeny boopers because they just like what they want to like okay..
The band members aren't necessarily right about their genre just beacause they are the band members. In fact, I think they are less likely to recognise their genre, as bands don't usually listen to themselves an awful lot.
- blink-182 is pop punk as hell. Someone earlier also stated that if he or she calls himself king of the world, it doesn't mean he is king of the world. Even though the blink-182 members might have thought they were punk rock, I see no reason as to why to believe that. Some of their songs definitely has punk rock influence, but this is not enough to label them punk rock. They're pop punk, end of story. --Scotteh 11:01, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
Poll
Ok, let's see if we can get some kind of consensus going here. What genre should the band be referred to in the article? Please sign votes. Lan3y - Talk 14:04, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
This poll shall be considered closed on April 11, 2005, at 0000UTC. Poll is now closed. I count 8 Pop punk and 1 Punk rock votes. The result is Pop punk. Lan3y - Talk 11:20, Apr 11, 2005 (UTC)
- It seems to be clear to me from their music that they are more punk rock than pop punk. Lan3y - Talk 14:04, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
- Of course they're pop punk. B1link82 please remember Wikipedia:No personal attacks and Wikipedia:Three revert rule. Rhobite 14:50, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
- they're pop punk. ALKIVAR™ 20:38, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Obvious. I can call myself a giant banana split, but that doesn't make me one. (Tasty!) Katefan0 20:38, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
- I'd vote for pop, but that isn't an option. So, I'm going with Pop Punk. --TheGrza 22:30, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
- Pop. Definately. Kiand 13:10, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Clearly. I don't see how anyone could dispute that they are both punk and pop. Since this issue has come up on multiple articles (e.g. Avril Lavigne, Green Day), it may be an issue worth discussing in depth in punk pop. Tuf-Kat 22:53, Apr 8, 2005 (UTC)
- Commercialisation of the original punk idiom. Lots of emotion, hardly anti-establishment not nearly hardcore enough to call it emo. Definitely "Pop punk", I'm afraid. I happen to find it quite listenable, but not punk rock. Mike C 17:10, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- By all the definitions offered here, they count as pop punk. Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 11:31, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- pop punk (or skater punk). Look Greenday are thought of as pop punk and they are much more punk than blink 182.
- Scotteh 11:02, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
- punk rock because they band say they are, obviously Lan3y knows more about the band than mark and tom, an example of Stupidity. Unsigned vote by User:B1link82
- b1link82 is right they are a punk rock band along with green day, new found glory etc.... Unsigned vote by anonymous User:84.67.4.49
- Please see [3]. This vote is the user's sole contrib. Lan3y - Talk 21:22, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
- This IP belongs to the UK ISP, Energis. The offending user in this case is in the UK. Horribly tenous link, but... Kiand 13:31, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- In fact, the user in question *does* use Energis, so I'm going to call w:sockpuppet on this one. Kiand 16:16, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- This IP belongs to the UK ISP, Energis. The offending user in this case is in the UK. Horribly tenous link, but... Kiand 13:31, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Definitely Punk Rock as attitude, but pop punk as music, even that their last disc sounds as Punk Rock, let's ask Greg Graffin... Punk rock is [what 4.40.35.15 said] or even punk, a style or genre that varies (and varied) along history so, who we are to consider or categorize a band? Categorization is a commercial resource, along with trends and fashion, so let's don't focus on categories, and make a deeper analysis of the situation... ----Greedyredbag 03:37, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- They are clearly Punk Rock. Although they could have been classified as pop punk during the Take Off Your Pants and Jacket era when describing the band they should be described in reference to their latest album. Their untitlied album was clearly a move away from pop punk using distorted guitar and far darker lyrics and musical sound. Songs like Easy Target, Violence and Stokholm Sydnrome back this up. Untitled is definitely not pop punk. Pop punk involves clean guitar, simple melodies and zero distortian. 09:11, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Neutral
- Googling for "pop punk" "blink-182" produces 66,400 results; "punk rock" "blink-182" produces 222,000 results. FWIW... -- ChrisO 15:18, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- and also for what its worth: Results 1 - 100 of about 911,000 for "pop" "blink 182". ALKIVAR™ 18:21, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Blink-182 obviously wants to call themselves punk, and they have a right to. Are any of you in succesful bands that make albums as good as "Dude Ranch" or the other albums? No you are not. That's what I thought. Punk is a genre that has changed since it first came around. Blink-182, especially new blink-182, is obviously not like the Ramones, nor are they as new-punk as, say, NOFX. Also, Punk should transcend politics. The topics blink-182 choose to sing about are fine by me as long as they continue to be good. Please, do not compare blink-182 to Avril Lavigne.
That means fuck all you idiot pop is a short word and pop can mean loads of things.
- Lovely above missive by User:B1link82. Katefan0 12:52, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
If 'pop punk' won the poll, why does the article say 'punk rock'? I'm going to change it now, hope that's ok.
Oh for christ's sakes why the hell do you all have to argue about every single bloody band's genre?? no band can be restricted to any one genre. NO BAND.Anyway, whats the big difference between punk, punk rock and pop punk?
- Why don't you just call them nu metal, which is half way between. As i've seen them classed in that genre on some websites.
hahahahah "nu metal" very funny!
Right kids. I am giving you a homework of listening to dude ranch and cheshire cat and coming back to me and calling them pop-punk, nu-metal or whatever. I think you'll find these two albums as raw punk rock
Angels and Airwaves
Recently, information has surfaced regarding Delonge's solo album. According to the United States Patent and Trademark Office, he registered the name "Angels and Airwaves" on June 24th 2005 and also claimed that "It is so much more powerful, emotional and melodic than Box Car and Blink put together". Many are skeptical regarding the authenticiy of the statement and the project itself and it is confirmed that the supposed Angels and Airwaves website is not official, that's the reason why it is using a UK domain name. Anyway it is assumed that the band's MySpace page has been registered by Geffen. This statement, along with much of the information disclosed about reasons for the break, presents a greater sense of ambiguity.
The domain is registered to David Rossiter, who stated on the supposed Angels and Airwaves website this: "Hey guys, I've seen loads of comments on other forums or postings in news articles questioning whether this site is official. No, is the answer, it is not an official website, but it is officially the first fan site for the band! Please join this board and start building up an awesome community. A website will follow shortly, stay tuned!"
The whois lookup for the domains "angelsandairwaves.com" and "angelsandairwaves.net" leave Geffen Records as the owner of both of them, since May 11, 2005... so this may have been planned since a long time.
I hope this helps to clarify things a little. Someone please add some of this information to the article. --Greedy 22:32, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
Reedit the last article about the "divorce"
It's big, messy and not so clarifying. I think it should be edited significantly so that it can summarise the whole situation about the band current status. Otherwise I don't see need for so much information. Most peoeple new to the band won't give a shit and won't read it at all. Better something smaller, but tighter and stricter. Painbearer 10:43, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
Songs lost stubs etc..
I care little for the music category, but i noticed that there are allot of satelite floater pages like this one [4]. --..micky 07:59, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
Feel Sorry For The Youth of Today
This band is far from punk rock, I don't care what google says; only one of you really understood what punk and/or hardcore is. I'm older than most of you probably, take it from someone more experienced. I really feel sorry for the music that young people have to grow up with today; it's boring, there's no edge, no angst, and, I find this most disturbing, safe. People can have many debates as to what a genuine punk sound is, in many ways there isn't one; however, there is one thing everyone in the know agrees about, that's the attiude. And it has nothing to do with how you dress or look, and to many extents, even sound, but moreso what you say and how you act. Prissy, "safe", PC, SoCal boys with nothing to say, or, more importantly, nothing to be pissed off about, or not in the business of pissing other people off are NOT the punk attiude. Gordon Gecko is more punk rock than these guys, and I mean that literally, don't let the wing tips and expensive suits fool you. If you're looking for REAL SoCal punk, pick up an old Circle Jerks album, Black Flagg, Operation Ivy, you want to go real old school, The Germs. I mean it when I say I feel really sorry for young people today. Usually it's the kids looking down at the parents for being "square" or not "hip" or not "getting it"; now the parents will be looking down on their kids for being that. Excercise and open up your brain, I still have faith in some of you; take it from someone who remembers when MTV first aired and watched it "evolve" if you can even call it that, it's a sham.
- This talk page is used for discussions on ways to improve the article. If you have a suggestion which would improve Wikipedia's coverage of Blink-182, it is welcome here. Comments intended only to praise or complain about the band are not appropriate here. Rhobite 16:16, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
You really need to climb off of your throne and relax. -Grandmaster Shaft
Granted, I may have got side tracked, but that was my intention; I agree, I think it got lost in my own editorilizing, there just seemed to be a lengthy and very misinformed discussion "categorizing" this band. If you want to categorize this band, it should be pop, or pop-punk at best; taking definitions of what music is from Google I just find absurd. Now-a-days people take the Internet (Google, whatever)as the Gospel of All Knowing Truth and Fact. How many times have you been having a conversation/argument with someone and their comeback is, "I read it on the internet."?? I apologize for the rant. <<<< didn't sign name
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- Ray of Today sang Break Down the Walls, let's think about that.**
NO I AM MORE PUNK THAN YOU ARE! How's that pedastle you are standing on? My problem is this: When did Fugazi become a hardcore band?
I haven't listened to blink 182 since the week I listened to Dude Ranch in middle school, but I was reading this page out of curiousity. blink 182 made some money, but treat their friends and family well. Ray Cappo helped create a violent subculture and then decided that all his friends weren't good enough and drinks wine now. Who is are the assholes?
If you hate blink 182 so much then how did you end up on thier discussion page?
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Plus 44 sixty second song?
Hello everyone, I removed the sentence On February 26, 2006 a sixty-second clip of a song was released that many suspect is Plus-44. The clip has a very electronic, synth feel to it, and would be a huge change of pace for punk rock veterans, Mark Hoppus and Travis Barker.. If anyone has any sources for this please post them here. --Greedy 03:49, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Easy Target-Holly?
Does anyone have any information about "Holly" from Easy Target?
- I know some things... Holly appears also on All of This (the song after Easy Target)... that is because it was meant to be the same song at the beginning of the recording. And I think that Mark or Tom answered somewhere that the character (Holly) was inspired by a mean girl that a friend of them used to know. --Greedy 17:21, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
~I go to Poway High and I was told that in one of blink's songs (don't remember which one) they allude to a woman named Sally who still works security for Poway High school. She may have been responsible for catching Tom drunk during the basketball game and it is possible that this is who they are referring to in Easy Target. Perhaps you misheard "Sally" as "Holly" or maybe Tom simply mixed up the name when writing his song.
~ no the sally they refer to in the song "I Miss You" refers to Sally from the movie The Nightmare Before Christmas. Mark sings "The shadow in the background of the morgue the unsuspecting victim of darkness in the valley we can live like Jack and Sally if we want where you can always find me we'll have Halloween on Christmas". Jack has a relationship with Sally in the Movie and the plot of the movie revolves around Holloween being replaced by Christmas. The name is Holly, in both songs.
~ sally could refer to the blink song 'My pet sally'. in the song he refers to sally as 'salamander' which he may have mistakenly called her while drunk. look up the lyrics and interpret them for yourself
Genre confusion
I belive that blink 182 are basicly what people say it is "pop/punk".Many people say that there early stuff was more punk and there later stuff were more pop but I disagree. If you listen to flyswatter and buddah... sure songs like alone, point of view, dicklips or fentloozer could be slightly classified as punk (but not proper punk) but basicly cheshire cat, buddah are all about getting girls or leaving relationships. Enema of the state is mostly pop exept for anthem. TOYPAJ (Take Off Your Pants and Jacket) is possibly there most punk album whit songs such as Anthem Part Two, Reackless Abandon, Give Me One Good Reason and Shut Up. The self titeles or untiled whatever you want to call it album is there most differnt music they have made with much more serios songs such as Violence, Stolkholme Syndrome,Go ,Astenia and Easy target, which cannot be clasified as punk or pop. Also adding to this you can notice alot of elements of Angels and Airwaves in Asthenia, Always and Im Lost With Out you. --Jordans 03:40, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
i think there just "punk" Supmyman7 23:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
blink-182/Blink-182
I just noticed that the inital listing of the bands name is starting to get capitalized and reverted. Let's not start an edit war here. I went through the Wikipedia:Manual of Style and Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters) but couldn't find anything to indicate which is correct. So, what do people want or feel is correct? CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 01:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
- I understand it's "blink-182". At the beginning of a sentence, you still capitalize letters that normally are lowercase. Such as Al-Qaeda and others in Category:Article titles with lowercase initial letters. To avoid the problem, perhaps the sentence should be rewritten. BabuBhatt 01:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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- How about "Formed in 1992 blink-182 was a Southern-Californian Pop-Punk band founded by Tom Delonge, Mark Hoppus, and Scott Raynor in the northern San Diego suburb of Poway, California."? CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 01:20, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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- Sorry, just edited without checking here. After having a read around, I think I would go with BabuBhatt, following the same sort of idea we use for numerals, as in if any numeral must be used at the beginning of a sentence, it is always spelt out. For definite clarity the sentence shouldn't begin with 'blink-182'. However, the above suggestion sounds a bit forced. cBuckley (Talk • Contribs) 01:26, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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- Just to add something to my own post, and a quick comment back to BabuBhatt, surely al-Quaeda should be displayed like normal words (i.e. not capitalised except at the beginning of sentences etc.), whereas you would be referring to something like pH? Incidentally, pH is written 'pH' at the beginning of a sentence in its own article. cBuckley (Talk • Contribs) 01:33, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
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- I dont really know. It may be blink-182 however proper nouns are generally capitalised and with "blink-182" being the name of a band that makes it a proper noun so maybe it should be capitalised.
The Come Back?
What is that about? Making one last album or something? - Supmyman7 23:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- not true :-( Jds10912 19:24, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
To me, unless I get real proof I can't rust taht info. Please prove it. bobsmith319.
Pictures
This article is in desperate need of fair use images to support the text Wisdom89 15:05, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
Transplants
All the things say "The Transplants." I've changed it to "Transplants," because I was watching Jimmy Kimmel interview Travis Barker, and Barker said that the band was "Transplants," not "The Transplants." If I am mistaken, change it back and reply inform me here, and if I am wrong about this tell me where you get your information.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gopherbassist (talk • contribs) 03:33, 20 May 2006.
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- I noticed that Jimmy said "Transplants" too...but their old website was thetransplants.com, and their myspace was myspace.com/thetransplants.--Atticus2020 17:23, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
is/was
First it's blink-182/Blink-182 now this. Next the article will be listed as Wikipedia:Lamest edit wars. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 04:42, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
"blink-182 was" vs. "blink-182 is"
Why does someone keep editing this page to change "blink-182 was" to "blink-182 is"? The band is still on hiatus. I sometimes follow the news of blink-182 and there has been no evidence that the band is still together during the hiatus. Singer Tom DeLonge said that he hasn't heard from the rest of the members (Mark Hoppus and Travis Barker) since the day the band went on hiatus. So, that's why we should leave it as "blink-182 was". If anyone changes it back to "blink-182 is", that means the band is no longer on hiatus, but they still are. 65.222.216.15 16:05, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- I would like to know why User:64.142.89.105 reverts the compromise with the note "please discuss on talk page" when there is no immediate evidence that this user is discussing this. The compromise text eliminates the argument. RadioKirk talk to me 16:23, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Per Merriam-Webster, hiatus is defined as "an interruption in time or continuity" while the Oxford English Dictionary defines it as an "interruption (or) break in sequence". In each case, the definitions require the continuation of the "pattern" when the hiatus concludes. In my estimation, this means a band on (even an indefinite) hiatus exists until at least one member says it's over; therefore, it still is (and, may I present The Eagles ["(The band will perform together) when hell freezes over." —Don Henley, 1982, v. "We never broke up, we just took a 14-year vacation." —Glen Frey, 1994] and Styx as proof). It should also be noted that "was a ... band" (paragraph 1) and "the current and official rendering of the band's name" (paragraph 3) cannot coexist. RadioKirk talk to me 17:22, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
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- I keep changing "blink-182 is" to "blink-182 was" because they are no longer together as Tom DeLonge said that he hasn't spoken to the other members Mark Hoppus and Travis Barker. As I said before, the band is still on hiatus, but indefinitely, that means that they would be on hiatus for a very long time, because that's what "indefinitely" means. I researched some links wether the band is still together or not.
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- So. Believe it, it's true that blink-182 is no longer together. 64.142.89.105 17:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
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- Great! Now, include the information and WP:CITE it in the article. Even better, write in both arguments and WP:CITE them, as in, "so-and-so says the band is still on hiatus<ref>(source)</ref> while the other so-and-so says they're over.<ref>(source)</ref>":) RadioKirk talk to me 17:37, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
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- In don't care if it says "is" or "was" but every time someone changes it then someone else changes it back. But being called a vandal for trying to put in a compromise is not too polite. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 23:12, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
The revert war stops, now. The following note has been left on the IPs' talk pages:
By reverting once more to the "was/is" war, it is clear you have every intention of using Wikipedia to prove you're "right" while willfully avoiding any attempt at compromise. In addition, IPs 64.142.89.105 and 65.222.216.15 are being used for tag-team reversions in attempt to avoid Wikipedia's rules against revert-wars. This language is factual, and it is to remain intact because it should be the goal of all of us for Wikipedia to be correct, not its editors. Further reversions will violate WP:3RR and WP:POINT and will be dealt with either through page proection or blocking your ability to edit the encyclopedia, or both. RadioKirk talk to me 17:43, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
angels and the airwaves
Just to bring to every one attention that Tom DeLonge from Blink 182 plays this band call Angels and the Airwaves now. (Talk) 2;24, 03 June 2006 (UTC)
- You haven't been giving too much attention to this article, right? Of course almost everyone knows that! ^^.-Zingazin 15:49, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
broken up?
just asking if they have broken up because of tom delonge is playing in angels and the airwaves. (Talk) 9:26, 04 June 2006 (UTC)
I belive they have broken up. The transplants occured before angels and airwaves and I thought that was a sign of them breaking up.-- User:Blackout45 9:03, sept. 18 2006
Hi, somebody put that Blink's years active ending 2006. However, just five days ago, it siad 2005. Which year is it? bobsmith319.
- Well, the band announced their hiatus in early 2005. Some sources say that Tom DeLonge said he hadn't spoken to Mark Hoppus and Travis Barker ever since. So, that would be a "yes" that they broke up. Read part of this section for more proof. Alex 01:15, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Trivia section
That section looks wrong. It's just a large list of unrealted material. Most, if not all, should be removed as unencyclopedic. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 12:26, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
I completely agree, so I took out most of it. This section is just an indiscriminate collection of info.
- Tom DeLonge was #15 on Cosmogirl's top fifty hottest rockers.
- Barker started playing the drums when he was four.
- An early band containing Mark Hoppus was called The Attic Children.
- Before blink-182, Tom was in a band called Big Oily Men, Mark was in a band called the Pier 69, then Of All Things, until he moved to San Diego to start The Attic Children (which later turned into blink, and grew on to become a part of the name of the clothing company, Atticus, which Mark and Tom co-founded), and before the Aquabats and the Vandals, Travis was in an amateur band called Feeble.
- When approached on the street by fans seeking insight, Mark Hoppus reportedly has replied with: "I'm the guy with the flat voice in Blink 182. Why are you paying any attention me? I have nothing to offer anyone."
- On the inside of the spine on the album Enema of the State you will find the words "Viking wizard eyes, Wizard full of lies"
- The song "Dick Lips" was not originally called "Dick Lips". Hoppus was very fond of those two words, and called everybody in the studio that. When the producer came to the studio to ask what the name of the song was. Hoppus and DeLonge both blurted out "Dick Lips". They were going to change the name to better suit the song, but the name stuck with it.
- The cover of Greatest Hits looks similar to The Offspring's Greatest Hits' cover, an apparent homage to "real punk rock" according to Travis.
Excuse me but, the album covers look NOTHING alike
GrahameS 14:07, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
Fansites
I've removed all the fansites - they're unencyclopedic and it's just a target for people to put their own personal fansite. since we can't list ALL fansites I think it's better to have none, if someone really wants to find a fansite they can use google.
- Boltzies-blink A blink fan site.
- Easy target 182
- blink182foreverandever
- Punk Disasters
- blink-182 by Atomik Fan site.
GrahameS 03:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
this might be a little POV, but i think we should leave punkdisasters. im pretty sure that it is the #1 visited blink-182 fan site. but then we might have to start letting everyone put their fansites here... oh well Jds10912 00:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Indefinite Hiatus
I think the "Indefinite Hiatus" section should be renamed "Break-Up" as Mark Hoppus made it pretty clear that Tom quit the band, and that he and Travis have no intention of playing under the blink-182 name. If they ever get back together it will be considered as a reunion.--MrPink 20:44, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but the official statement made by Mark was " ... going on indefinite hiatus", not "we're breaking up". I say we just leaving it saying indefinate hiatus. -- WereWolf 22:05, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed, Mark said they have no intention of playing under the blink-182 name but that doesn't mean its gone forever. Mark doesnt say anywhere in his interviews that the band has broken up -- Flowerkiller1692 16:55, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
Exactly. You never know if one day they settle their differences and getback together. There not broken up, their just at a point where they dont know what will happen to Blink 182. [[Toasty!|Available at your local store]] 00:49, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
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A Spoof of Whaaa?
Somebody wrote the following in the Trivia section: "A Spoof of "Violence" is in Date Movie". First of all, the syntax is incorrect. Second of all, what the hell does this sentence say? I have no idea, and I'm sure other readers will be confused too. Ido50 22:50, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
- whoever said that has no clue what they are talking about. there is a similar drum beat, but it is not the same song at all. Jds10912 00:06, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Mark's Interviews
We should really add Mark's interviews in the article because:
1. It's about blink-182 and it's an important part of the article
2. According to Mark blink-182 is now a defunct group
3. The interview had revealed Mark's feelings towards Tom.
So, I think the interviews are required.--Cory pratt 19:22, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- if you want to edit down the interview into something that would fit here. i think it is a good idea, but i do not have the time to do so myself. there was a lot in that interview that should be mentioned in the article.Jds10912 00:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Mutt
This Song from Enema Of The State was originally recorded with Scott Raynor just before dude ranch, they decided to release it on the enema of the state album
- DeLonge had one line as a fast-food worker in the film Idle Hands.
- Barker appears in print and TV advertisements for Boost Mobile.
- "All the Small Things" and "First Date" appeared in the film "Clockstoppers".
- In the Buffy the Vampire Slayer episode "Something Blue", Willow gets drunk and dances to "All The Small Things".
- In "Stick It" when Haley is doing her floor routine she is dancing to "Anthem Part 2."
- Hoppus appeared on episode #7 of Haunted as the dead father of a living girl.
- "All The Small Things" is covered by an unnamed band on the Gamecube game Donkey Konga
- "Rock Show" appears in the PS2 game Amplitude.
- "Blink 182 appears in a concert playing "what's my age again?" on the show Laguna Beach"
- Blink 182's song First Date appeared on the show Still Standing, when the daughter went to one of there concerts.
- "Dammit" appears constantly in the movies Bubble Boy, Dickie Roberts: Former Child Star, and Can't Hardly Wait. It also appeared on the Daria episode, "Arts 'n Crass" and an episode of the WB teen drama, Dawson's Creek.
- Barker and wife Shanna Moakler co-star in Meet the Barkers, an MTV reality show.
- GrahameS 17:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
Behind the Music
On the Behind the Music arcticle it says an episode on blink-182 is in production
just wanted to know if this was true
Yeah it is i watched it a few weeks back its like their DVDS The Cronicles RetroSpect741 20:07, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
New Album
someone posted something about a new album. There are no citations and I can't find anything anywhere else about it. Does anyone have any proof it's real? Theonegreatx 03:32, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
name
can be pronounced "one eight two" aswell you know.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqZ0faPsWqM here they say it.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Olir (talk • contribs).
in that case, i propose deleting the pronounciation altogether. 24.129.92.210 05:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
- Why? Can we not list both, more than one? --OuroborosCobra 20:38, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree with 24.129.92.210—if there's more than one "correct" way to pronounce the name, its inclusion becomes entirely moot. Also, may I remind editors to please use the edit summary (directly below the text box within the edit page) to help other editors recognize that something finally includes a source when it had been added repeatedly without one? Your edit will be less likely to be reverted as a matter of course. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 21:09, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
- It can be said like that, but the proper way is "eighty". Just like Kerrang! spelling it Blink 182 - just because it does, it doesn't make it right. --Jamdav86 21:37, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
- That's why I put the word correct in quotation marks; while "one eighty two" (or, even more properly, "one hundred eighty two") is technically the correct way to enunciate the numerical entity, we're talking about the name of a band. If its members use more than one pronunciation, there is no one "correct" way. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 21:50, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
- I'm still failing to see why having more than one way to pronounce something means that including those pronunciations is moot. There are stil a great many of "incorrect" pronunciations, and this shows which ones are "correct". --OuroborosCobra 04:38, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
- It becomes inconsequential. If there's one, and only one, way to pronounce something, according to its originator(s), then it's significant; once more than one is established, particularly if it's numerical (where there're often several alternatives), then it's fancruft at best. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 04:56, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
The issue is that "one eighty two" is the only "correct" way of saying it. "one eight two" and "one hundred and eighty two" are wrong, and that is a well-known fact. --Jamdav86 18:00, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
- Very little within an encyclopedia can be considered "well-known fact". "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth" (emphasis as written), meaning you must cite a reliable source for the data to remain. This is incontrovertible Wikipedia policy. Meantime, I would consider the video linked above to be proof that the band members liked both "one eighty two" and "one eight two", again rendering this whole thing unencyclopedic. RadioKirk (u|t|c) 20:24, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Albums from discography not included
Lemmings (A split), Flyswatter, Buddha, The Mark, Tom, and Travis show (Live album), and Greatest Hits. I'm not sure what years these were released but they should be added.
- Read the hidden note on the discography section. Alex 00:50, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Undated additions to talk page
New Discography
Who the hell put up that crappy new discography?!? It is very disjointed.
--30/12/05
Punk?
Is it really honest to call this band punk when you look at their music, politics and commercial drive? Politics eh? Its music man, don't read to deep into it. its punk rock - they say so themselves!!!!
It's sugarcoated mainstream music that tries to portay themselves as punk. Doesn't Ashlee Simpson try to say she's "punk' sometimes too? Hell I could call myself King of the World, would you bow to me then?
Comming from a kid who may or may not be punk rock. You might have a huge mohawk or piercings or such... and you think because of that, you are the punk rock authority. Punk rock was never about how many piercings or tats you can get to make your parents angry, its about the music. blink 182 has their style and its open to those who want to listen to it, if you don't like it, don't whine, whip out a preverbial ramones cd, and relish in the fact that you think your so punk rock. These guys have stuck to their style for 20 years, through fads, trends, and mtv, and are still the cool easy going guys they've ever been, albeit richer. Then again though,your the only person who knows punk rock music, and if it went on the radio, man oh man, you are instantly too cool for them.
I honestly think they're more pop-punk, for one thing the vocals have a more nasal sound then most punk bands and the article itself says "The band is known for its catchy, simple melodies and lyrical toilet humor. Songwriters Hoppus and DeLonge cite pop punk bands such as The Descendents and Screeching Weasel[1] as their early influences, however, the band's songwriting and production are driven by a pop sensibility." Johhny-turbo 01:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
Blink 182 doesn't deserve the reputation of punk. They are quite clearly power-popThesnoo 20:19, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
I'm sorry
It wasn't my purpose to be racist, I am from Argentina, and hate that kind of agression towards me, but at first sight that comment from that girl sounded more like from a groupie. OK, I won't meke any comments like this in the future, not even think of them.
Thanx for making me realize my sillyness, I didn't meant to sound as a war-criminal,
Bye
Greedy
right who cares if they are teeny boopers do u even know what the word really means? huh? do ya? i dont think so.. they like blink because blink are so easy to like, they aare so funny and dont give a shit about anything but now they are mature so yeah...
- The talk page is for commments, and the comment above suit the purposes of the talk page. For you to delete it is to ignore the comments above and discard them. It is up to the author to delete these comments, as they are on a talkpage instead of an article page. Also, your description as the "Mexican unnecesary comment" is incredibly racist and uncalled for. Go edit the Skrewdriver page and leave the human beings alone, war-criminal. --TheGrza 08:39, Mar 22, 2005 (UTC)
joke
This is a joke how can you wrongly classify a band???????? you lot are insane!
blink 182 in their early years they were mostly punk rock.. but now their recent album is more pop punk...
Request clarification: Radio codeword
Regarding this phrase from the article:
"...Travis stated that the "182" was the U.S. radio codeword meaning 'homicide' (apparently confusing "182", the radio codeword for conspiracy, for "187")."
Could someone please clarify what is meant by a radio codeword for conspiracy? Is the word 'radio' referring to U.S. commercial broadcasters? Perhaps it refers to U.S. law enforcement, but 'conspiracy' seems an odd (and rather nebulous) crime to require a code number. Thanks to anyone who might be able to clear this up.
Trivia?
Most of the trivia section reads like a Tom DeLonge fan-page.
any way to change the title
i know cause of the technical restrictions it won't let us change the "Blink-182" to "blink-182" but once i saw, that the lower case one(blink-182)was on top of the other once at one point in time. how can you do that?
i think this website is shit!!!! let emo ppl be how they wannt!!!!! and dresss how they feel like! im sick of the fucker who made thi website www.anti-emo.com its the stupidest thing ever
Pop culture section
Most of this section is pretty boring and irrelevant - I don't think we need to list every single TV show or movie that featured a blink song, that's a little too much IMO. Here's the stuff I took out. Also a bunch of stuff that only related to the band members individually and not the band.
blink-182 name change after 1997
After scotts depature from the band on the album covers their name was stated as blink-182 were as before he left they were stated as Blink 182. (Re-release of Cheshire Cat in 1998 After they changed the album cover way of name to blink-182) original was stated = Blink 182.
Tom's myspace
- IS FAKE
- SO TAKE IT OFF
- I took it off twice and it keeps getting added back on.
- IT'S FAKE
- FAKE FAKE FAKE
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Caillou1337 (talk • contribs).
This things on crack they got all the lables mixed up buddah/cargo chesire cat/MCA and flyswatter was recorded in Toms Garage he said it in "Road Homes" on MTV...
Enema Of The State Demo
i have just seen a page of enema of the state demo. anyone clarify if this real album or fake ?
A possible reunion
I heard that Tom and Mark spoke about the possibility of getting the band back together some time in the future - however Travis refused because he cannot stand Tom Delonge after what he did.
Just wondering if anyone could prove this to be true??
i think that rumor was when some Anon made a page of a new album. blink-182 are not reuniting at this moment