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[edit] Double checking

This article needs need double checking!

>x<ino 17:04, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

How the heck do you get that Amy hates Blaze. I played through the entire game, and I didn't find anything about that.

I didn't do or add any information to this article!
That is why I said this article needs double checking!


Perhaps...since you have played the game. You can add some information to it! That's what Wiki is all about, and why anyone can edit any article

>x<ino 00:30, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clean UP!

This article is already being subjected to speculation of "romantic relationship" with Silver, and her role in Sonic the Hedgehog. And also, there was recent vandilism, that nearly 10 edits missed to correct! UnDeRsCoRe 23:35, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Indeed, there's no information on whether or not the relationship between Blaze and Silver is merely platonic, and yet already a bunch of shippers think that something deep is going on. Ugh... our society is far too preoccupied with sex! It's disgusting! --Luigifan 03:16, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

I know, to be honest, these characters are about exactly how old? 6-20 at the most. I doubt they'll be, or should be, getting jiggy right now. Also, I'm sure Sega/Sonic Team are smarter than to have characters having it. But I don't think shippers want the chars to have sex, they want them to be "together". Although, it's highly unlikely. UnDeRsCoRe 15:22, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
First off, could you point out said vandalism? I must have missed it. Also, do you know nothing about teenagers? I can tell you from first hand experience, there are few who are not having sex even as young as 13-15 (age of charcters in question). However, it has been said that Blaze/Silver's relationship is the brother/sister type with Blaze being the older sibling. (JPN Blaze's profile says this)

GrandMasterGalvatron 13:27, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

I think I'd know, I am a teen. Anyway, I know that they're few that haven't had sex, but I'm only saying that Sega will never make them do the do. UnDeRsCoRe 21:30, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
That's because sex has been glorified by the media to terrifying levels. What with parents' relaxing attitudes towards child-rearing, children are learning about sex from all the wrong places, like their peers, or from television, or magazines like Cosmopotolian. This leads to a skewed view of sexuality that, if not recognized and corrected, can easily lead to irresponsible sexual conduct, or, if the poor kid is really misinformed, it might become horniness. So, the sexual lunacy in our society could be stopped easily if parents actually took the time to raise their kids properly. Seeing as that's not happening too frequently for this generation, it's up to us to make sure that the next generation isn't even more screwed up. --Luigifan 00:02, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
We can't blame the parents entirely, I mean, first off, it's akward (or at least I'd think it would be) to teach your child about sex. That's why they hope their children don't bring it up. But, if they don't know, they just might find out the wrong way. But still, I agree that it's their responsibility to teach the child about sex and morals and stuff, but it's also the kid's responsibility not the go around doing it for the sake of the feeling. UnDeRsCoRe 21:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

How off topic has this gotten? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.126.59.28 (talkcontribs).

Very. UnDeRsCoRe 23:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
Lust is evil. EEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (runs around like Mermaid Man) ... Sorry. I just HAD to do that.  :p --Luigifan 00:00, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Those sick people can fantasise all they like, but NO Sonic game will EVER be rated 18/AO for Sex. Roxyr

Unless Sega ever gets that desperate. (Goes off to pray that they never do.) UnDeRsCoRe 16:15, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
Tell me about it... (Goes off to join UnDeRsCoRe) --Luigifan 00:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
Meh, what the hell. (Runs around in circles then goes off to join UnDeRsCoRe and Luigifan) Roxyr 16:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, it turns out that Blaze and Silver do have romantic feelings for each other, but neither one wants to admit it. Go figure... Of course, SEGA has never actually displayed sexual intercourse in its games, not even using some sort of veil (e. g. bedsheets, curtains, off-screen, etc...) And, in all likelihood, they never, EVER will... unless they end up growing desperate. (Goes off to pray again) --Luigifan 00:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

This is almost as distubing as Elise liking Sonic. (Human-animal relationships are wrongsick!) DeathGodDragon EDGE 19:24, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Nothing is as disturbing as that. NOTHING. Roxyr 21:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Meh. Sonic is way more human-like than animal-like anyway. 83.255.67.167 18:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Burning Blaze

I took some screenshots of this form from a video that was posted on youtube. it's kinda low quality but it shows what she looks like. Could that be posted here or would you rather wait for an official image to be made Grandmastergalvatron 19:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/Hot-Shot/SB5.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v481/Hot-Shot/superdudes1.png
These are the best images of Burning Blaze that I have. I doubt that there will be any official art for a while....what can be done about this?

They're not really good quality. But, eh, I like the second one, put it up if you want to. UnDeRsCoRe 21:18, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

Actually....do you think we could put up a fan made render accurate to the version in the game?GrandMasterGalvatron 16:29, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't know. I don't think so though. I'd rather have official art than fan. But, since no official art of Burning Blaze has been revealed, I guess we could use fan art. UnDeRsCoRe 01:22, 1 November 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Orignal Research = No

That was not original research, however, it would classify as hacked information, I guess. Should I remove it because the source is a forum, or leave it there because it is verifiable information (I should say this in the STH(2006) article as well), because if one were to decompile the demo onto their PC using an extractor, as Sonic CulT did, they would be able to verify the existance of the images. Roybertito 23:29, 2 October 2006 (UTC)

From what I've seen, they'd rather have the source be verified by means other than hacking. I can't really say what to do in this case but I'm leaving it as is.GrandMasterGalvatron 20:03, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Well, it seems to have been referenced to a screenshot of the life icons, which is, apparently, for Sonic, Shadow, Silver, Omega, Tails, Amy, Blaze and Knuckles. UnDeRsCoRe 22:24, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Things to be added in time

Here's a little heads up on some details that will be added later.

  • Blaze hails from the same time as Silver.
  • Blaze and Silver are close friends.
  • Blaze was confined to her location in Rush as the result of an attempt to seal the Iblis within herself.
  • Blaze is anti social because she lost a close friend, that being Silver.

This will all come from the new Sonic game. These details are taken from script leaks and can be added when the game comes out with even more details. ^^ GrandMasterGalvatron 21:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Burst Dash

The article says blaze spins in a tornado but that's incorrect. I don't know how to really describe what she does to charge up speed. She goes into some hovering stance and fire builds up behind her. Can I get some help on this?GrandMasterGalvatron 17:12, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Cats?!?

Why is the WikiProject Cats template here? Blaze is a fictional character. She's not a real cat. Putting this up here is like saying Sonic should be in WikiProject Hedgehogs. It makes no sense. --Luigifan 11:21, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Look at the Wikipedia:WikiProject Cats project page, and you will see that the scope of the project includes both fictional and factual members of the cat family. Basically, it wouldn't make a lot of sense if we didn't include the likes of Garfield, Heathcliff, Bucky the cat from Get Fuzzy, etc., because, even though they are fictional, they tend to be based upon rather close observation of the real thing. On that basis, we are marking articles on all the factual and fictional members of the genus Felidae, because, in several cases, our possibly greater knowledge about the real-world templates these fictional cats might be based on might prove valuable. Badbilltucker 13:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit block

Ok. This IP, 82.34.98.127, keeps making these lame edits on both Blaze, Silver, and Sonic The Hedgehog 2006's articles. I think I've reverted it's changes some ten times in the last 5 minutes. Can we like block it from editing the page or set an anti vandal block or something? GrandMasterGalvatron 18:39, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

I've sent a warning to the I.P., although I doubt they'll listen. Anyway, if the vandalisim keeps up, we should get protection. 23:36, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Like my new name :P Oh, and just so you know, someone else spelt colour correctly on the Silver page. So its not just me. ColoUrnotcolor 20:43, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

That spelling's only correct if you're Canadian. --Luigifan 12:22, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
Or British like moi XD Roxyr 11:27, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, eh wot, or whatever. I really don't get British/Old English. I only know a few of its slang words (like "loo" for "toilet", or "willy" for "penis".) In short, I prefer American spellings anytime. Though, I do tend to guffaw at British accents, like in the Harry Potter movies. It just sounds so ridiculous. Anyway, the spelling on this page should definitely be "color", not "colour". --Luigifan 14:04, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
Just to ask, why do American spellings have to be standard? It's 'Wikipedia English Language', not 'Wikipedia American'--HellCat86 02:28, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
Why should British spellings be standard? :PGrandMasterGalvatron 05:43, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
...Because we created the language being used?--HellCat86 13:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Why are we arguing over the spelling of the word color? That's just dumb. Aguni Dragon-OX 00:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

I guess because some are hell bent on using the "our" spelling. But really...look at it. EVerytime I see "colour" the pronounciation "Kuh-LOOER" comes to mind. Seriously...I can't look at the word and get "kuh-LORE" out. :/GrandMasterGalvatron 21:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Luigifan, are you taking the piss, or are you joking? Anyway, Britons are starting to get all dumb, thinking they're 'gangsta'. That is incredibly stupid, I mean do they go around shooting people? Or do they go to a 'social club'? Oh yeah, there's some sort of topic going on here... Roxyr 19:07, 7 December 2006 (UTC) P.S. Not bad for a teenager, eh wot?!? **guffaws**

Sometimes, people at Wiki can have the most idiotic edit wars ever. DeathGodDragon EDGE 19:22, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] No memory of Sonic

Spent the last few days watching the cutscenes for the new game. Now, I haven't been actually able to play the game but from what I can see Blaze doesn't seem to have any reaction to Sonic. Is any explanation given for this? --HellCat86 00:13, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps Sonic the Hedgehog takes place chronologically before Sonic Rush. Then, since Solaris is erased from history, the events of the game never happen, meaning that Blaze no longer knows or is affiliated with Sonic, and thus did not sacrifice herself to destroy Iblis. That's just my take on the matter though, and since I haven't actually played the game, my theory might have some problems, but it's as good as any, I suppose. Cyberlink420 19:41, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

This makes the Sonic timeline so confusing. But, I've got to give you credit, Cyberlink420. That's a pretty plausible theory you've got there. (claps) Aguni Dragon-OX 21:29, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

It certainly is very confusing. I'm still trying to judge, myself, where 06 fits into the timeline of 06, Rivals, and Rush. But yeah, I find that theory to make sense also. Knuckles sonic8 21:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

For the reasons stated above, I'm going to erase the line in question, since it's not really clear in the first place. Until then, we must assume that Sonic Rush takes place before "Sonic 2006". Brittany Ka 12:55, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Brittany Ka, no matter which theory is proven to be true, either way, the timeline will be confusing. DeathGodDragon EDGE 05:41, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

I think Rush does take place before 2006, because Blaze gets all annoyed at the characters talking about Sonic Sonic Sonic. If she had met him before Rush, wouldn't she know who he was during the events of Rush? Hbdragon88 01:24, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

I've seen videos of cutscenes from Sonic 2006, and she keeps saying to herself, "blue hedgehog", as if she feels that she knows him, yet can't quite remember him. 05:31, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, when Solaris is erased, the events of Sonic 2006 get totally negated, with the exception that Sonic and Elise have faint memories of each other. So, Sonic 2006's place within the timeline is a moot point... --Luigifan 23:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Blaze on Sonic Channel

Here she is on Sonic Channel. [1] This seems like that she will return. 17:20, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

So she's on Sonic Channel, big deal, this means nothing. -Sukecchi 02:06, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
I don't think we'll know her fate unless she appears again. I agree that the final ending of the game rewrites her fate but then said fate seems to be a driving force for Silver and his theme song even specifically references it.--HellCat86 02:36, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
So is Blaze's loss the supposed sin for which he is asking forgiveness for? (Absolution=forgiveness of sin) Makes sense except it wasn't his fault...he pansied out at the last minute. I suppose it's noteworthy either way :/GrandMasterGalvatron 04:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Sure sounds like it. "I know of a future, but you still control the past"= Silver could move on but can't because of guilt over her death. "Every night I will save you"= In his dreams, Silver is constantly seeking to undo her death and save her life.--HellCat86 04:40, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I haven't seen that artwork of her before, so it may be possible they're using her in a new game.

Artwork shown also appeared in Sonic Rivals - just a note. Also, good analysis of the song. Everytime both other users and I try adding parts of that to interpret the song on Silver's page, it gets removed for some reason. But, personally, I think it's possible that, somehow, she'll re-appear. That would be weird though if she appeared in Secret Rings... well for me anyway...Knuckles sonic8 13:52, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Actually..that was the Sonic Rush piece. It just had the circles.GrandMasterGalvatron 15:07, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
She is going to appear that game, but so far, she's only been confirmed for multiplayer mode, so does it necessarily mean she's not dead?
Wow! Turned out to be right after all! I'm actually more surprised Rouge hasn't been confirmed for multiplayer, actually.. Maybe there's more than 8 hopefully but I doubt it (in reminiscence to Shuffle highly). We'll have to wait and see if she appears in Story; I HIGHLY think she will make an appearance. I don't know if she'll have a "role" per se as does Tails, Knuckles and Eggman. But we'll see... I'm glad the date was moved back so I can get this game even sooner. ^_^ Knuckles sonic8 23:18, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Um, hello? The lyrics keep getting removed because it's copyright infringement. Namely, you're horning in on Sonic Team's trademark. You're really not supposed to do those kinds of things on Wikipedia. --Luigifan 12:25, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abilities

Is it possible to edit this? In Sonic 2006, Blaze seems to be using variants of some of her moves from Rush. Blaze even seems to do Homing Attacks in the game. (If you need proof, go the official Japanese site and look at the Silver gameplay video.) Aguni Dragon-OX 22:16, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Hello, can someone help me out? DeathGodDragon EDGE 07:14, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh c'mon! Could someone please help me out?! ChromeWulf ZX 19:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I would, but I don't have the game! XD...oh wait...I have the guide! I'll post the moves soon.GrandMasterGalvatron 07:52, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alternate world or future???

what is true and what is false, in sonic rush she came from an alternate world and in sonic the hedgehog she came from the future, but what is real ìm so confused.

I'm starting to think we're either seeing a translation flub or retcon. In Sonic 06, it's made clear that Silver and Blaze come from a possible future. Rivals makes the same distinction with Eggman Nega--HellCat86 16:07, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Just like Blaze was a princess in Rush and a queen in 06, the alternate dimesion thing probably got retconned. Silver and Blaze come from an possible future that existed when Ilbis was released and mananged to destroy the world. DeathGodDragon EDGE 01:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Blaze didn't die at the end of Silver's story, she sealed herself [and Iblis] away in a parallel dimension. It's within this alternate universe where she assumed the role of the protector of the Sol Emeralds, henceforth leading to the events of Sonic Rush. --Luigifan 00:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Blaze did die in 06, but because Solaris (and Mephiles and Iblis along with it) was wiped out, it wouldn't matter if she died or lived in an alternate universe after sealing Iblis within her. Due to the story, all the events of 06 didn't happen. DeathGodDragon EDGE 03:10, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Sega have gone and created a major plot hole. The script writers have gone off their rocker, leaving fans to speculate. Quite clever actually... It might've been a plan to make people buy the next Sonic games to find out... Hyper the Hedgehog 07:40, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Wow! I never thought of it that way.. wouldn't be surprised if that's what their secret intentions were; makes sense = a build-up for future games. Knuckles sonic8 20:43, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Yep, this could have been Sega's scheme all along, but I didn't really care for plot holes; I mean the entire StH series is chock-full of em! DeathGodDragon EDGE 23:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The whole Blaze sealing herself and iblis in the other dimension would have explained the Rush incident except Rivals had to ruin it by having Eggman Nega come from the future. Unless there are two Eggman nega's. the only solution to this plothole is to that Sonic next gen(or Sonic Rush) is not canon. Delsait 03:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] play as blaze under certain condition ?

Huh? what do you mean like unlocking her own story line or playing the extra level as her —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.176.247.119 (talk) 04:10, 8 December 2006 (UTC).

I think it simply refers to you playing as her in certain segments of the game. --Luigifan 12:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blaze Has...Chaos Control?

In the Chaos Control article someone put down Blaze as a user. I'm in doubt, but anyone who notices this post, should check out the article, and then say what you think about it. ChromeWulf ZX 04:13, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

I suppose you could say that. Chaos Control is what got Iblis and her into that other dimension, and Silver punked out. GrandMasterGalvatron 18:52, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
The question is, was it Chaos Control, or just mundane teleportation? I'm guessing it was Chaos Control, because I don't think Blaze is able to teleport, and, besides, ordinary teleportation probably couldn't get you to another dimension. Still, you'd think she would have said "Chaos Control!" or something... But, of course, I'm just speculating about this... --Luigifan 19:01, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Who knows? It could be another Sonic Team plothole. ChromeWulf ZX 00:06, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Why in the World?

Why does it show alot about blaze in Silver's Bold textRelationshps section than Silver in this article? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SilverandBlazefan (talk • contribs) 04:08, 18 February 2007 (UTC). Blaze4Sonic&Sonic4Blaze 04:09, 18 February 2007 (UTC)SilverandBlaze4-ever

[edit] Blaze is a He-she??????

If it says Blaze is female then why does it call her a he instead of she on this page????

Yes, I noticed this too and made the according changes. Some poor, sad, soul either spent a long time on a practical joke or were genuinely ignorant. I wasn't logged in at the time I made the changes but c'est la vie.Old Ma Hart 19:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] I think I've figured out a solution that pleases everyone

Okay heres my theory. Basically Blaze is born in the dimension in Rush with royal parents. At some point in time Mephiles power or Mephiles himself in a different form somehow warps a very young Blaze(think like Creams age) to the future of Sonic's dimension separating her from her parents. An orphaned Blaze is an outcast in Silvers future due to her strange powers and her claim that she is a princess. Eventually she meets Silver and they become fast friends. She also learns to keep her cool explaining her change from a hothead in Rush to a calmhead in Sonic Next gen.

However due to Solaris(and Mephiles being erased as well) being erased from time. Blaze never dies or gets transported to the future of Sonic’s dimension. While Blaze gets respect due to being princess she unfortunately doesn’t never meets Silver(though they might still have faint memories of eachother) or makes any friends explaining her highly anti social attitude in Sonic rush.

As for Nega,after Rivals he somehow manages to escape from the card and get into Blaze’s dimension. Immediately finding out he is feared not laughed at because no one remembers his ancestry. Nega decides to start over, forget the past and become a new mad scientist. He makes a new archenemy in Blaze the cat. As for his relationship with Eggman,he decides to let bygones be bygones,that they are incredibly similar,and realizes the destructive power they would have if they teamed up,he forgives Eggman. Eggman never one to turn down a partnership agrees and the events of Sonic rush start. As only Shadow and Silver found out Eggman was really Eggman nega in Rivals,this is Sonic’s first real meeting with Eggman Nega. Delsait 01:28, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

You know, I've seen a post exactly like this on Game FAQs. --Luigifan 12:06, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

That is because I'm the guy that posted it on gamefaqs. Delsait 22:51, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

A-ha. I see... --Luigifan 12:18, 9 March 2007 (UTC)


[edit] Some unusual info...

This states that Blaze is self-conscious about her chest size and she becomes upset if someone teases her about it. It's from Concept-Mobius. I know it's a fan site, but they really don't make things like that up. They were right about Burning Blaze and Wave and Rouge's rivalry. Should this be put into this article? [2] 206.66.217.144 20:59, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

NO! --Luigifan 11:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
I wonder where they got that info... It doesn't sound like something Sonic Team would write. Gurko 08:27, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
No, it sounds like a vandal. I have seen it before, and it's always been erased quickly. Just be glad it's not the return of Angel the Cat. --Luigifan 10:57, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
Aw yeah, I remember that... XD. Anyway, I read about the breast thing at Sonic Cult, who claimed that they had translated it from something. But it's probably not true. Gurko 20:11, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
What is it with some of the sicko fans out there and female character chest sizes? I mean honestly, can't people write articles without bringing that kind of stuff up; it's disgusting! Sonic is supposed to be at least somewhat family friendly; they shouldn't be talking about stuff like that even if they do have swear words. User:Denjo