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Contents 1 pic needed 2 blancmange function 3 Updates (Monty Python title and others) 4 Move "Blancmanges in Monty Python's TV Humor"?

[edit] pic needed

Someone should add a pic

[edit] blancmange function

Blancmange is also the name of a specific mathematical function.

The Blancmange function, also called the Takagi fractal curve, is a pathological continuous function which is nowhere differentiable. The iterations towards the continuous function are batrachions resembling the Hofstadter-Conway 10,000-Dollar Sequence.

See: http://mathworld.wolfram.com/BlancmangeFunction.html

Kees Brantjes.

the disambiguation page deals with this. -- Akb4 02:29, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Updates (Monty Python title and others)

I did the following:

- Changed the title of the Monty Python section to the Wikpedia standard "xxx in popular culture". This properly refocuses the article to what the title "Blancmange" says.

- Added a reference to the "Manjar Blanco" article. In Spain this is Blancmange but in Latin America it is something different.

- Added categories for various European cuisines.

--Mcorazao 19:19, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

"properly refocuses the..." nah, too linear and boring, not to mention overcat of a single popcult case. Legendary TV stars, and their fans, deserve a headline. Milo 06:24, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

? Well, reverting a change without discussion actually violates Wikipedia policy. In any event how "boring" this is is not really the point. Wikipedia is not a fan site and this article is not about Monty Python (or if that was the intent then it was mistitled). I'll simply cite the section for inappropriate tone and request that you or somebody else reconsider how this is written. --Mcorazao 04:58, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

"reverting a change without discussion actually violates Wikipedia policy." Incorrect in a non-controversial context. Single reverts are routine. It's double and triple reverts that are to be avoided by taking disputes to the talk page. • If you want respect as a newbie encyclopedia editor you need to do prior research to avoid making baldly incorrect statements, or at least phrase your concern as a question. • To the point, a recurring Monty Python theme was lampooning the kind of petty ruleslawyering that you have invoked. Arts and entertainment pages (page section in this case) have looser Wikiguides than for other articles — more slack. My advice to you is to avoid editing them. Your strict style is better suited to history and science. I can also edit strictly — it's a matter of switching context. Milo 23:00, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I guess I struck a nerve. It seems to me you're stretching the intent of the guidelines but it's not worth arguing over for such a trivial subject. --Mcorazao 03:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

User:Akb4's comment refactored to new section "Move "Blancmanges in Monty Python's TV Humor"?"

Back to editing, 207.228.157.18 added a second popular culture reference (by author Louisa May Alcott), so I've restored the "Blancmanges in popular culture" subhead. Then I outline demoted the "Blancmanges in Monty Python's TV Humor" to a sub-subhead under popular culture, which still meets my concern that Monty Python have a headline visible in the contents box. Milo 05:24, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Move "Blancmanges in Monty Python's TV Humor"?

My feeling is that an article dealing with a popular food that has crossed continents and been modified over at least 600 years should probably not have half its content devoted to a money python episode. even though that episode totally rocks. Since at this point I think there's an article for every episode of south park, there should certainly be an article for every monty python episode, and this article should just have a one or two sentence bit pointing to that. -- Akb4 02:29, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, for different reasons, I too am ready to move it. It will be damaged beyond recognition if it's left here. • By sorting it reasonably belongs here; every paragraph of the Monthy Python portion of the article mentions blancmanges. Also, here was the first place to which I and other readers have navigated when we read that strange word on the TV screen. • The real problem is that Monthy Python intends to irritate people, and at least two food editors have, in my opinion, attacked the section because they don't like being irritated when they are are reading about food, or are irritated by the intentional disorder of that art. (They will probably deny that, so it will just have remain my art juror opinion.) • However, a move to an episode article doesn't work well because this half episode is one of the very few linear stories in any Monty Python episode. If one puts it in an episode guide it would get lost under unrelated nonlinear material in the first part of the episode. • I think it should be moved to it's own article "Blancmange (Monty Python TV)", and a disambig pointer should be placed as usual at the top saying "For the TV episode, see Blancmange (Monty Python TV)". Milo 07:15, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I moved it to Blancmange (Monty Python TV), refitted a brief description into the section "Blancmanges in popular culture", moved the main page to Blancmange (food), and added the new titles to Blancmange (disambiguation), but the line at the top seems more appropriate as "This is the main topic. For other uses, see Blancmange (disambiguation)."

Blancmange is currently an auto-redirect page to Blancmange (food). Blancmange ought to redirect to Blancmange (disambiguation), but that means changing links on many pages to Blancmange (food). Maybe someone else will do that, or not. A low-Python happy new year to the blancmange food editors. Milo 04:08, 28 December 2006 (UTC)