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Contents 1 Famous residents 2 Notable people 3 Blackpool Council 4 The title Blackpool should lead to the disambiguation page 5 On 6 Blackpool and South Shore Merge 7 Removed Spam 8 "Sand Grown 'Uns" 9 Blackpool Ballroom dance? 10 Copyright violation

[edit] Famous residents

just a sub-note that you shouldnt forget famous people who were born there such as the cure's Robert Smith

[edit] Notable people

Some of the names listed are very tentatively linked. Roy Walker's from Blackpool because he's appeared on the pier? I'm considering making the list exclusive only to those born in the town. - Dudesleeper 13:11, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

I agree Roy Walker is not "from" Blackpool. He does live in the area though (Lytham) which may have given rise to the idea that he's from Blackpool. Belovedfreak 7 November 2006

Making the list exclusive to only those born in the town would be a mistake in my opinion as it would exclude then numerous people who, although they were not born in Blackpool were brought up in the town and consider themselves to be Sand Grown 'Uns. For instance the Nolans - only one of the original 5 sisters were (I think) born in Blackpool, yet at least one of them was only a baby when the family moved to Blackpool in the early 1960's and was brought up in the town. Tangerines 00:28, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blackpool Council

Please note that Blackpool Borough Council has now changed its name in official capacities to Blackpool Council. I have altered the relevant items on the page to reflect this. 81.159.229.181 13:58, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The title Blackpool should lead to the disambiguation page

I think that the page called Blackpool should lead you to the disambiguation page, and this page Blackpool, England should be renamed as such. This way when people are looking for any of the different Blackpools they can choose the one they want. Sirtrebuchet 22:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

The Blackpool in question is the most famous, therefore I think the article title should remain as it is. - Dudesleeper 00:45, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

I believe it is the only Blackpool of any note. Unless someone can make a case otherwise? Andy Farrell 17:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] On

"History International: What the Victorians Did for Us: Pleasure Seekers", I had thought that I'd heard that a large pier had been built in 1923.

I now know what they call "swimming pool": lido_(disambiguation); lido_(swimming_pool). One was built in 1923.

&, much of Blackpool Tramway was built in 1923.

Thank You.

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[edit] Blackpool and South Shore Merge

• Seeing that 'South Shore' is part of Blackpool (not Blackpool 'Borough', just Blackpool) and the fact that the parts of the South Shore that make it notable ie. South Pier, Pleasure Beach, Sandcastle, Blackpool Football Club etc. are already included in the Blackpool article, then yes, they should be merged.

80.192.242.187 23:37, 23 January 2007 (UTC) JemmyH.

• Agree merge, speedy if possible. --RedHillian 11:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
  • Disagree do not merge. There are other areas of Blackpool listed separately on Wikipedia. South Shore is just the same as say Layton, Blackpool. Tangerines 00:36, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
    • Yes, merge. As a native of South Shore, I think it doesn't have a distinct identity; only a local would know or care where it turned into Central or Marton, and it is a lot simpler for the reader to find everything under Blackpool. The South Shore page is also very limited in and of itself - poor grammar, not much content, not a lot to stand alone on. Andy Farrell 17:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Comment The fact that the South Shore, Blackpool article is not at present particularly well written though, (and it is pretty poor to be honest) is not justification for it to be merged with this page. It is a definite reason for it to be improved yes, but not merged. Tangerines 17:46, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Additional Comment I have also just found a Blackpool article on the GENUKI (Geneaology UK & Ireland) website which has the following entries - "1819 - A man named Thomas Moore built the first houses at South Shore." and "1836 South Shore Parish Church (Holy Trinity) erected." Those entries alone would surely suffice to keep South Shore as it is now, in the same manner that other areas of Blackpool have pages. Website - Genuki Blackpool Tangerines 22:29, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
    • Should be merged. Town articles should reflect the area the town covers today unless they represent a substantial secondary article covering some notable item of or within the town..—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Keithworden (talk • contribs).
    • I believe that while geographically one could argue that Blackpool and South Shore are seperate, officially South Shore is an Italic text areaItalic text of Blackpool and has the same status as North Shore etc..—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mmmfood (talk • contribs).
    • Geographically South Shore is in Blackpool. Tangerines 17:26, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Removed Spam

Removed obvious Spam reference to Chorley Nissan. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.176.105.35 (talk) 13:17, 30 January 2007 (UTC).

[edit] "Sand Grown 'Uns"

I'd like to contest the fact that residents of Blackpool are known as 'Sand Growns'. I've lived here all my life and have never heard that term used.

I live in St Annes and have heard the term "sandgrown'un" used to refer specifically to residents of the Moss as it was in previous decades. A better term might be Blackpudlian but I've not heard that used much either (not by locals anyhow).

I have lived in South Shore up until I moved to Birmingham to attend University in September 2005, and have always considered myself a "Sandgrown'un". When I moved to Birmingham and met other people, I told them I was from Blackpool, several people pointed out that I was Sandgrown'un. Clearly, it's not only Blackpool citizens that associate the term "Sand Grown" with us.

Sand Grown 'Un s is a common Blackpool term, and is not anything to be contested as it is fact that the term is used to describe those born on The Fylde Coast (as opposed to just Blackpool, but it is also used for those born in Blackpool). It is correct to say that residents of Blackpool are not Sand Grown as it is only those born here. I was born here and consider myself a Sand Grown 'Un. Tangerines 20:33, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

I grew up in Blackpool as did the maternal side of my family and "Sandgrown'un" was (and is) commonly used. Blackpudlian was not.

Blackpudlian sounds more like someone who would eat black puddings. I was brought up in Bolton, but I have relatives who live in Blackpool who used to run various guest houses: they have heard people use the term "sandgrown'un", but only visitors. Hope that helps. 09:20, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

I live in Bispham, and have heard both "sand grown 'uns" and "Blackpudlians" (Liverpudlians are perhaps liver puddings by the reasoning of the above?). I personally use blackpudlian. Sandgrown'uns is th nickname of the Blackpool Football Club. Ck lostsword 21:53, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

I also live in the Bispham area, and the term "sandgrown'uns" is the generally accepted name for someone born in Blackpool and/or the Fylde Coast area. User:DShamen 10:31, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

The nickname of the football club is 'The Seasiders', not Sandgrown'uns. I also grew up in Blackpool, and have heard the latter term used about the natives occassionally, but I wouldn't say it was widely used.

Also Bispham born. Sand Grown 'Uns as has been pointed out has nothing whatsoever to do with Blackpool F.C. whose nicknames include The Seasiders and The Tangerines. But they have never been known as the Sand Grown 'Uns. Blackpudlian is also not a commonly used local word, whereas Sand Grown 'Un most definitely is. Tangerines 20:33, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

As a regular visitor to Blackpool (I would say that I have been to Blackpool more than anyone else!!) I have never heard the term "Sand Grown Uns" and therefore I believe that if I haven't heard of it then chances are even the most interested person will not really be bothered.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mmmfood (talk • contribs).

And with respect, whether or not you have heard of it does not detract from the fact that anyone born and/or brought up in Blackpool is known as a Sand Grown 'Un. Just as the word "Grockles", is often used by locals to refer to holidaymakers.Tangerines 17:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Blackpool Ballroom dance?

What about something on Blackpool's internationally famous Ballroom dance competition? The Jade Knight 17:46, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Copyright violation

I reverted the additions made here by User:Tangerines because it is all taken directly from http://www.blackpooltourism.com/resources/files/2_Blackpool%20History.pdf -- Mufka ^{(user) (talk) (contribs)} 19:16, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

And I am currently in the process of re-writing the early Blackpool History so as not to violate copyright. Tangerines 13:47, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

I have now re-written the article so that it does not violate copyright. And added it back in to the Early History section.Tangerines 23:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)