Talk:Blackguard (Dungeons & Dragons)

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[edit] blackguard

I was very surprised to find this role-playing reference under Blackguard. This is in fact an old English phrase for a scoundrel or knave, dating back to the early 18th century, disappeared from common English usage in the early 20th century. See e.g. http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=blackguard. I feel that this word should not direct to some Dungeons & Dragons character class. We need disambiguation. Unless anyone objects, I'm going to move it soon. -- Palthrow 18:47, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

The dictionary definition has been moved to Wiktionary. As a result, the disambiguation page has been removed. A link to the future Wiktionary entry may be in order. theProject 05:12, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't object to a move. "Blackguard (Dungeons & Dragons)" would be fine, most other D&D classes are named so anyway for disambiguation purposes. However, i should inform you that "Blackguard" will simply be redirected to "Blackguarnd (Dungeons & Dragons)", so someone searching for "Blackguard" will still be directed to the D&D class, simply because we have no other existing article with the name "Blackguard". The information about Blackguard being an old word meaning scoudrel or knave is something that belongs in Wiktionary, not Wikipedia. --Yaksha 06:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't really know my way around Wiktionary, but maybe we should leave this article as it is (we can move it to Blackguard (Dungeons & Dragons) later if we have something to disambiguate it with) and put in a link to the wiktionary article. We may be able to remove the definition section down the bottom then. I don't object to this getting moved, it's just a feel it might need another article conflicting first. Morgrim 06:36, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Regardless of whether anyone objects, moving it might be a tad messy. I remember there was a discussion earlier when someone wanted to standize the naming of all D&D classes (so all articles about D&D classes should have "(Dungeons & Dragons)" at the end), but people didn't agree. If there's a genuin disambiguation problem, then of course no one's going to disagree with the move, but here, we have no other Blackguard article.

I think ideally, we want a message like the one on top of nen, directing people to Wikitionary. But the template that does that doesn't seem to be able to cope with inter-wiki links. I think the best we can do would be to simply add a wikitionary box that links to the Wikitionary entry on "Blackguard" --Yaksha 06:53, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

Regardless of what emerges from this discussion, please remember that disambiguations involving only two pages do not require their own disambiguation pages. Links to and from the two articles can be provided just as easily. theProject 23:42, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

I moved this page because the disambiguation (Dungeons & Dragons) is consistent with all other D&D class pages, and thus it should be disambiguated for consistency's sake, even though there are no other same-named pages to distinguish it from. Iceberg3k 22:29, 5 February 2007 (UTC) (I am Lawful Good, after all)