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I have seen in the Hypo Dictionary that the Euxine Sea is mearly the Sea of Azov and not the entire Black Sea.

Can you please advise which is the correct version ?

Thanks for much kind assistance.

Michael Komissar


email: komissar@komissar.co.il

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[edit] Geology or Limnology?

Moved comment by 63.224.220.61 from page to here for discussionPollinator 13:09, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC):

This paragraph does not discuss the geology of the Black Sea... by definition a sea is comprised of liquid water and does not have 'geology.' This paragraph also does not discuss the geology of the region around the Black Sea. What it actually does discuss is the limnology of the Black Sea.

[edit] Satellite view

What are the red dots all over the image? --Tothebarricades.tk 03:44, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Geology / History

I sure feel stupid for asking, but what's a "sweetwater" lake?

Just a comment: In the History section, I read the first paragraph 4-5 times - I still don't get it.

The water of seas and oceans is salted. Opposed to that, the water of most lakes has far less salt and it is labeled "sweetwater" or "fresh water". See more at the article about fresh water. bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 13:22, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
I changed the term "sweetwater" to "freshwater", as that definition of sweetwater was not in any dictionary I could find. In English, the term "freshwater" is universally understood to describe a body of water with a low salt concentration.--Acefox 30 June 2005 19:13 (UTC)

[edit] Net inflow of water?

This one is probably silly as well, but if there is a net inflow of sea water, and an extra inflow of fresh water, either the level is rising, or evaoporation is increasing at the same rate (and hence the sea is becoming more salty). Or is the net inflow of sea water from the Mediterranean being compensated by a net outflow of fresh water into the Mediterranean? I guess there's something I don't understand about the whole mechanism :o)

Not really an answer to your question -- but I read an article in Scientific American a decade or more ago, that said water flows in both directions through the dardenelles. The water flowing in one direction is less salty and less dense than the water flowing in the other direction. But I can't remember which direction the two flows are, or their relative volume of flow. I think I assumed, at the time, that they were of equal volume. The article says the salty layer starts at 150 meters. I didn't know the dardenelles was that deep. I wouldn't expect that depth if the deluge theory was correct. But, what do I know. -- Geo Swan 00:04, July 12, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Interesting facts

Some interesting facts from this article:

  • last major tsunami was in 1901, with waves 5-metre high. Historically, in 104 AD, the Greek colony of Calatis (now Mangalia) was severely hit by another one.
  • the tides are only 11 cm high.
  • sometimes spontaneous ignition occurs (due to deep gases that reach the surface -- it would be great some more info on the exact chemical reactions). bogdan | Talk 20:33, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Name

The section on `History' at the end contradicts the section on `Name' at the start, suggesting that the name `Black Sea' was used by the Ancient Greeks. This should be fixed, one way or the other: I don't know who is right.

Mhardcastle 21:31, 12 January 2006 (UTC)

Should't therebe something about the history of the people that live/d around theBlack Sea,or at least something redirectig to other articles? The sea played such an important role in Eurpean and Near Easternhistory since anchient times, that it seems strange that reference is only made to the "scientific" facts around the sea and not its historical and cultural role.

[edit] Hydrogen Sulfide / Sulfuric Acid

I understand bacteria using sulfates as an oxidising agent for metabolism in anoxic conditions. However, I can't see the released H2S reacting with anoxic seawater to regenerate the SO42-. And even if it did, it wouldn't lead to precipitates of sulphides. The H2S, I suspect, remains in solution, reacting with metal ions to precipitate sulfide minerals.

I am not sufficiently familiar with sulfur chemistry to edit the text myself with any great assurance of getting it right, but I think this is an anomaly that needs input from someone who does know.--King Hildebrand 20:08, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Geographic inconsistency/typo?

There appears to be a geographic inconsistency, perhaps a typo, in the section "Geology & Bathymetry". The sentence which reads "The southern edge around Turkey, and the western edge around Georgia ..." doesn't make sense as this western edge (of a sub-basin) would be against Bulgaria, not Georgia - which is to the eastern shore.

there is a very beautifu pictuaresque colour photo which is labeled "the black sea near Suchu, taken in 1915". I doubt such a high quality colour photo could have been taken back then ?!

It appears to be a Prokudin-Gorskii photo. See the relevant article on his methods to make color photographs. Khoikhoi 09:18, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] fish?

THe fauna section doesn't talk about fauna —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.206.165.55 (talk) 08:33, 2 February 2007 (UTC).

That is because it is not yet written. If you have something to add, please register, and help the project out. Somnabot 00:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Black Sea is a lake!

You can consider the Black Sea to be a true lake because of the very narrow river that leads into it. Other than that, more than 99% of the whole entire sea is surrounded by land (when including the Sea of Azov). A lake doesn't have to be precisely 100% surrounded by pure land. The Great Lakes, for example, are connected to the ocean by a waterway (which is exactly what the Bosphorous is). Also, it is at least 100 miles inland from the Mediterranean Sea, and is separated by a series of waterways and a "lake" just south. 131.191.64.130 23:08, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Abkhazia

When there is a list of resorts on the black sea, town Gagra (and others as well) are said to be not in Georgia only but in "Abkhazia, Georgia". i think it is the violation of Goergia's souverinity, as the teritory of Abkhazia is considend to be part of Goergia.

I think saying "Abkhazia, Georgia" is a good compromise between saying one or the other. See the de facto and de jure articles. Khoikhoi 03:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
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