Talk:Birth of the Cool

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[edit] Boplicity composer

I'm pretty sure "Boplicity" is by Gil Evans and Miles Davis --68.5.86.167 13:06, 2005 July 8 (UTC)

I thought the same thing, but I could be wrong. I'm an idiot for not owning this CD, so when I pick it up I'll come back here and fix/add what I can. Uttaddmb 03:40, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
It does say Cleo Henry on the back of my copy (2001 RVG reissue on CD). According to this, however, it was composed by Evans & Davis and merely credited to Henry. As it's officially credited to Henry, his name should stay, but we could add a note about its true origins (though some more support for this notion besides a single online article should be required first). ¦ Reisio 03:51, 2005 July 20 (UTC)
The Cleo Henry article says the name is Davis's grandmother's, and he and Evans did write the tune. --ajn (talk) 11:03, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
...right. I don't really doubt that it's Davis and Evans, but let's not resort to basing all our information off quasi-stubs written by anonymous users. ¦ Reisio 15:05, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
Ian Carr's biography, p55. --ajn (talk) 15:17, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Complete Birth of the Cool

The "Complete Birth of the Cool" CD includes detailed notes by Pete Welding about the origins and history of the nonet, which I've taken most of tonight's additions from. It also includes a shorter piece by Gerry Mulligan from 1971 in which he says Miles was the bandleader, one by Mike Zwerin (who played in the Royal Roost band but not on the studio recordings), and one by Phil Schaap about the radio broadcasts. It seems anal to me to insist that BOTC means the eleven tracks on the original 12" LP, the CD insert says that "Darn That Dream" has been included on the album for more than thirty years. (On getting out the RVG reissue, the Welding and Mulligan pieces are used as notes for that too, but not the Zwerin or Schaap). --ajn (talk) 22:45, 18 December 2005 (UTC)